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Biden's Troubles

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ETGator1, May 7, 2024.

  1. ETGator1

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    Just another day in the United States' two-tiered justice system with a dictator instead of a president weaponizing everything he can touch to his advantage.

    Biden's lack of competence begs the question if he is capable of understanding what his administration is doing in his name from the "office of the president."

    I'd hate to see Kamala Harris as president, but maybe the lack of having a capable/competent president is cause for that time to be now. Biden is not up to the job and certainly isn't up to 4 more years. I believe a majority of fair-minded Americans know this.
     
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    I'm sorry, but you're completely detached from reality. Biden discovered the documents which no one knew he had or was asking for. Did he just destroy them since no one would have known the difference? No. He contacted the FBI and invited them to do a search. Then he allowed a special counsel, who is a Republican, to investigate him. Did he throw a tantrum and fire the FBI director like Trump did? No. He sat with the special counsel for an interview. Did Trump sit down with Mueller's team for an interview? No. He delayed for more than a year and ultimately only agreed to submit answers in writing, which obviously his attorneys did. Has Biden interfered into the investigation of his son? No again.

    You can call Biden a dictator and go on about weaponizing the justice department but the facts don't support it. You can say it on here a thousand times but that doesn't make it true.
     
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  3. gator95

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    So then why the concern with releasing the tapes? Just release it.
     
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  4. mikemcd810

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    Because the only purpose it serves is political. It doesn't do anything to further their oversight - they already have everything they need to understand the special counsel's decision.
     
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  5. VAg8r1

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    We do have a two tiered system of justice. If Donald Trump were any other criminal defendant he would be behind bars now for blatantly violating multiple gag orders. As a reminder this is what happened to another high profile defendant who intentionally violated a gag order.
    Judge Issues Gag Order To Sam Bankman-Fried After Prosecutors Allege Witness Tampering
    around two weeks later
    Sam Bankman-Fried Sent to Jail After Judge Revokes Bail
     
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  6. VAg8r1

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    Nothing. The House Committees have complete verbatim transcripts of Biden's testimony. The Committees want the tapes so that they can release embarrassing excerpts in which Biden may have hesitated or mispronounced a word or two. The fact is that they can gain nothing of substance that they do not already have in the transcripts.
     
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  7. gator95

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    Of course it's political. Every single thing done by trump and biden until Nov is political. Still don't see why it isn't released. Makes biden look bad. Won't change who I vote for though. Both candidates have shown me neither is fit for office.
     
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  8. dangolegators

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    And we thank you for not voting.
     
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  9. VAg8r1

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    And the tapes themselves are substantively irrelevant. Presumably the Committees were concerned with fact finding. The verbatim transcripts of Biden's interview with Hur contained all of the facts that they need to perform their legislative/investigative function. The tapes are superfluous. They only reason that they want the tapes is so that they can selectively release embarrassing excerpt.
     
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  10. gator95

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    I'm voting, just not for either of those 2 idiots.
     
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  11. gator95

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    If the tapes show that Biden was clueless as it was written then let everyone hear it for themselves to draw their own conclusions. Sounds like Biden doesn't want it out there because it makes him look bad. Sounds like that's why you don't want it released either.
     
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    So Biden answered all questions and the answers have been released......but you support, no would be excited, to have an irrelevant audio version released because it may embarrass Biden.

    Too bad you Trumppublicans don't spend as much energy on actually getting anything done. Or caring about getting anything done. Health care? Infrastructure? Inflation reduction? Hell, even immigration reform was left totally undone by the Trumppubublicans. At least you're all over this. And driving up to protest at his trial, lol.




    Oh, and yes, YOU are a Trumppublican. Shilling for him and voting for the enablers and abettors of his criminality is pretty much the same as voting for the criminal himself.
     
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  13. gator95

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    Why is it irrelevant? Because you said so? It's like you yelling "war crimes" in caps. Doesn't make it true. All this does is make Biden somehow look worse by hiding behind executive privilege. If trump did it you would be screaming from the tree tops for it to be released. That's the advantage of being independent. I can see through the partisan bs you are spewing.

    So now i'm a trumppublican even though i've never voted for him? Can't fix stupid...
     
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    It's not the role of Congress to embarrass the president if he happens to be of the opposing party. It's the role of Congress to enact legislation and implicitly to conduct investigations related to that role. Congress also has a legitimate role in investigating potential wrongdoing in the Executive branch. The audio tapes provide no more additional evidence regarding the investigation of Biden's handling of the classified documents than does the verbatim transcript of the interviews.
     
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    Really? Because that's been the status quo for decades. How do you know the audio tapes provide no more additional evidence? People on the left have argued that that the depiction of Biden as being an old elderly person with a bad memory is wrong. Let everyone hear the tapes and go from there. It's funny you are playing politics with this because it affects who you want to win the election. Your bias is evident.
     
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  16. ETGator1

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    There is the fact that democrats attacked the special counsel after his finding were released. Let's hear the tapes to see if Hur is right, or wrong as democrats said.
     
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    The transcripts along with his published report speak for themselves. Unlike Bill Barr did with the Mueller report the Democrats didn't release a slanted summary of his report prior to its public release. I would also add the Democrats didn't attack his substantive conclusions. What they attacked was his gratuitous characterization (and I'm paraphrasing) of Biden as a cognitively impaired old man.
     
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  18. gator95

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    You are doing a lot of back peddling to try to rationalize not releasing the tapes. I would want the tapes released if it was trump being deposed. I would bet you want them released if it was trump as well. Let's see if you admit that.
     
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    Waste of time since they possess the actual transcripts. Of course, they can't govern worth a $$%%% anyway, but additionally, look at all the wasted time, energy, etc on the multitude of other failed Pub attempts to smear the President.
     
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    My gut without knowing more is that if the transcript is not privileged (or if the privileged was waived), what's the distinction with respect to the audio? It's a very quaint discussion in any event given that we're waiting on SCOTUS to let us know whether presidents can use fake electors or maybe even order the Navy Seals to assassinate their political rivals.

    Likely NYT bot headline: "Biden and Trump both claiming broad executive power."