I expect Bitar was a huge proponent of the decision to stop weapons shipments to Israel. But wait: MSN "Fallout continues on Capitol Hill over President Joe Biden's pause of a bomb shipment to Israel, and his warning the U.S. won't supply weapons that could be used in an invasion of Rafah, a city in southern Gaza where more than a million civilians have sought shelter. The House plans to vote this week on a Republican-led bill that would force the Biden administration to continue the transfer of certain weapons to Israel and would condemn Biden's decision to hold back some American-made heavy bombs to Israel. The measure, titled the Israel Security Assistance Support Act, urges the "expeditious delivery" of defense articles and services to Israel and would withhold funds for certain administration officials like secretary of defense and secretary of state until such articles are delivered. The legislation also reaffirms Israel's right to self-defense and calls on the Biden administration to allow all previously-approved arms transfers to Israel to "proceed quickly." Hopefully logic and reason will prevail over this now pro-Hamas anti-Israeli nutjobs in this administration. Of course, to the extent, this anti-Israel position hurts the dems with normal, reasonable, intelligent American voters (ie non-progressives) ...... the longer a weapons moratorium drags on, the better?
See the Joe Biden thread. This has been hashed over already. How do you feel having someone so close to the president who believes in the genocidal destruction of Israel, from the river to the sea, and who views Jews as monkeys and pigs who should be slaughtered, the 21st century equivalent of Germany's final solution?
If the US has evidence Israel committed war crimes against Palestinian civilians using US built weapons already, can anyone explain to me why we should sell Israel more? Especially if the Israel's plan will likely result in more war crimes?
I don’t like it, but the point of my comment was not to condone him (which I do not) but to refute your ridiculous claim that this is the first time we’ve broken with Israel in 76 years and that Biden should be impeached over it. It’s just incorrect partisan hackery on your part.
You saying the evidenced Sanders saw is false? Or Sanders and Biden are lying? And what if they aren't, and the US has evidence that Israel purposely targeted civilians? Then what?
Wrong, this is different as you'd see posted already by me and others in the Joe Biden thread. To top it off, Biden's administration, specifically Antony Blinken, has accused Israel of war crimes with no factual basis. Biden is pissed off because he can't dictate the leader and the policies of Israel and is using his anger as an excuse to stab Israel in the back which sets him straight with the antisemites of the democrat party and particularly those in the state of Michigan. The United States has never been this extreme against Israel. It's an historic policy change brought about by the incompetent president and staff who are dictator wannabees. All of this with no consultation with congress and against the will of the majority of the American people who are not antisemitic.
Must be a very happy existence. Anything you see that goes against your opinion or beliefs, you just dismiss as fake! Ignorance must truly be bliss. Hamas are terrorists. They have committed war crimes. But if Israel is blowing up buildings that have no evidence of harboring terrorists or weapons, and Israel specifically targeted these buildings, they are no better than Hamas.
There is that nasty "if" word again. Hamas started the war. Israel is going to finish the war. That there will be civilian casualties is not the fault of Israel so song as Hamas has the heart and souls of these people who are embedded and who will never agree to peace with Israel on any terms, ever. Palestinians: If Israel left the West Bank and Gaza, would there be peace with Israel? (youtube.com) This is true then and now. That you think Israel is no better than Hamas is a bridge too far. I'd rather you quit posting to me on this "if" subject as there is no common ground.
I'm with former Israeli former Foreign Minister. The war isn't winnable. Defeating a terrorist organization that is embedded within the civilian population simply isn't possible. "Finishing" the war just isn't possible. I say if Israel has committed war crimes because I haven't seen the evidence personally. And it's possible Hamas is lying. But President Biden, Senator Sanders, and others have seen the evidence and they all support pausing weapons shipments to Israel until things are cleared up. And I support that decision. If Israel is purposely committing war crimes and targeting civilians, then not only they are no better than Hamas, the only thing Israel is accomplishing long term is ensuring the next generation of Hamas will hate Israel and Jews when they grow up. And the generations of fighting between the two groups will continue ad naseum. I don't disagree with you about Hamas. There would be peace in the region if Hamas killed all the Jews. Or if Israel turned Gaza and other Arab areas into parking lots. But neither of these solutions are preferred. The only real hope for long term peace? That both sides realize the lesson WOPR learned in War Games, "The only winning move is not to play." Both sides targeting civilians only prolongs the status quo, which again, has been ongoing for generations. When are these people going to wake up and realize the insanity of doing the same things their fathers, grandfathers, and grandfathers did and think the result this time will be different? This goes for both sides.
The man and woman in the streets of Gaza and the West Bank will not settle for anything less that the destruction of Israel. After having the war thrust on them by Hamas, the ONLY option is a total and complete Israel victory. I disagree, the war is winnable. It's going to take longer as Israel is trying to limit casualties. I say go full bore and finish the job, the sooner the better, embedded civilians and 40,000 Hamas fighters must be destroyed. It will be Israel's position to establish in peace those who will accept and work with Israel for the greater good of the area. Bottom line, another Hamas for Iran to support and the Biden Administration to encourage will never be allowed again. On your genocide argument, Ben-Ami clearly states Israel has not committed acts of genocide or intends to commit acts of genocide. Curious, why did you NOT watch the video I provided you?
I think his affiliation with groups that have in essence called for jihad against Jews is a cause for concern at the least. Save your watered down "bigot" term for an antisemite like him. .
I never mentioned genocide, other than that's the only way to achieve victory on either side. And while you think it's possible Israel can win a war, you are also arguing that the Palestinians grow up being taught to hate Israel. How will Israel targeting and killing civilians change Palestinian minds and prevent the next generation of Palestinians from signing up for Hamas? War is a no-win scenario for both sides. Hamas doesn't have the firepower to attain their from land to the sea goal. And Israel isn't going to be able to kill all Hamas without creating further animosity among the Palestinian people. Animosity that's only going to stoke the flames of hatred that already exist, and cause more Palestinians to join Hamas. It's a pattern that's been ongoing for generations. Wash, rinse, repeat. I don't think Israel is attempting genocide. But I do believe there is evidence they are committing war crimes and targeting civilians on purpose. If this is true, how are the Israelis any better than Hamas? And how does targeting Palestinian civilians on purpose help Israel "win?"
Israel is targeting Hamas, its tunnels, and civilians embedding willfully with them. The only war in the last century I can think of that has parallels to this war, was the war between Germany and Russia when Germany broke its peace pact with Russia and attacked in June 1941. It was a war between two countries going after each other's jugular in a fight to the death. It's the same all-out fight for survival in this war except there will be no independent state of Palestine when this war is over. Another difference is Palestinians would rather die with Hamas than to have peace with Israel. In the German vs. Russia war, both sides committed unspeakable atrocities, but, like Hamas, Germany started the war and the atrocities. There will be an Israel win because there must be an Israeli win. Netanyahu said recently on Israel's 76th Independence Day, "never again." From his lips to God's ears. I ask again, why did you NOT watch the video I provided you?
No need. I have family in Israel. I talk to them on a regular basis. I know the situation. I'm no fan of Hamas, and I agree with Golda Meir that there will only be peace in the region when Arabs love their own children more then they hate Jewish children. I'm not religious, but I'm Jewish, and I know given the chance, Hamas would kill me and my family. And most Palestinians hate me just because of my heritage. I also know that fighting an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. Like I asked before, how is Israel purposely targeting Palestinian civilian areas going to help Israel win? Or, will it just help in creating the next wave of Hamas terrorists? When both sides don't want peace, there can be no peace. It only ends with total destruction/domination. Hamas doesn't have the military ability and if Israel did that in the Palestinian territory, the rest of the Arab world would respond, and the US would likely pull back. So that leave the only current option, which is continue the insanity and hope for different results this time. And that's not going to happen.
Israel will win this war no matter what the outside world says. After the US presidential election, Israel will have the US back as a full ally again. My biggest fear is the Biden Administration is capable of starting WWIII before November.
What does your family in Israel say about the situation? Do they say the fight is without purpose? Futile? Do they agree that Israel is purposely just shooting up civilians? Or is that what is read from the newspaper (and which is vehemently denied by Israel)? My clients and friends in Israel, to a man, support the war and the war effort, and their children are in the military lines. I trust their thoughts, but I’m curious of your family’s view.
