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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. gatorjo

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    Damn, anyone else wish he'da just been able to make that field trip, and saved us all so much annoyance and grief?
     
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  2. QGator2414

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    LOL!!!

    You keep telling yourself the covid shot was a competitive market.

    LOL!!!
     
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  3. HeyItsMe

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    I ignored him over a year ago. Amazing that so many of you still respond to him. He’s never going to get it, might as well save your breath.
     
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  4. BLING

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    If the covid shot wasn’t a “competitive market”, then basically nothing in healthcare is. Other than over the counter stuff, very rarely are there multiple treatment options available for consumers to choose and gravitate towards based on effectiveness. Usually there is just one best course option. Are there multiple options for childhood vaccines? Most people probably don’t even think about it.

    In reality very little about health care delivery is market based. There are aspects to it, like drug development or medical devices, where there are clear winners and losers (those that fail in clinical trials). But on the demand side it’s highly inelastic demand. The health care patient either needs a treatment or doesn’t. Even for major procedures, it’s not like shopping for a car (and who the f**% would want that to be the healthcare experience).
     
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  5. QGator2414

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    You are onto something.

    There was very little that was competitive when it same to the covid shot. From one buyer. The one buyer manipulating and controlling the regulations. To the one buyer protecting the very few sellers from any liability.

    That said…you can have a competitive market in healthcare though there are many situations like you pointed out that are just not a competitive market.

    It is basically impossible to have a perfect competitive market. But the idea the covid shot was anything close to that as md insinuated is just laughable. The covid shot was a backwards combination of an oligopoly and monopoly more than anything (note I am not saying that is what it was but showing how it presents).
     
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  6. mdgator05

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    Lol! So even you are admitting that it wasn't what you are saying it is. Perfect.
     
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  7. QGator2414

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    It is exactly what I have been saying and the farthest thing from what you keep insinuating.

    Perfect for sure!
     
  8. mdgator05

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    You can't even get yourself to agree with you!
     
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  9. VAg8r1

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    Extending to your rationale to other pharmaceuticals I assume that you oppose patent protection for any pharmaceuticals since almost by definition a patent allows the patent holder to maintain a monopoly/oligopoly. By the way I do not recall that you may a similar argument regarding one of the monoclonal antibody treatments for Covid which were being purchased by the State of Florida under the direction of Gov. DeSantis.
    Governor Ron DeSantis Highlights Monoclonal Antibody Treatment Success in Florida
    I would also add that DeSantis continued to promote the drug for the treatment of Covid even after Omicron became the dominant variant for which the drug was much less effective compared with the original form of the virus and the Delta variant.
     
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  10. l_boy

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    I said this probably 1000 pages ago yet people still feed the trolls.
     
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  11. HeyItsMe

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    Exactly. He always comes back to his thread because he seeks the attention he knows his responses will create. If everyone ignored him as they should, he and this thread would wither away.
     
  12. philnotfil

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    He has shown a willingness to jump into other threads when he doesn't get enough attention here. I would rather he got his attention here than pollute the rest of the board.
     
  13. Gatorrick22

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    This is the man that forced the vaccines upon us... I'm glad I did my own research first. I talked my whole family out of taking that clot shot. And I'm glad they listened to what I had to say about it before it was too late.

    And since I did my part... and feel no shame in my actions, I can laugh about this collage of governmental overreach and stupidity that American Icon, James Woods, has put together for your viewing pleasure. ;)



    James Woods takes eerie walk down vaccine 'memory lane'—never forget Biden's haunting words... - Revolver News

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  14. Gatorrick22

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    More inconvenient truths about that clot shot that I tried to warn you all about.

     
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  15. AzCatFan

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    How many were any of these deaths COVID or vaccine related? The answer, none. As reported by Pfizer to the FDA.
     
  16. Tjgators

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    So you are saying not one person died from the vaccine? That's a bit ridiculous.
     
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    That was the safety test not the efficacy test. So taking the Covid shot was twenty seven percent more fatal than a saline shot.
     
  18. QGator2414

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    No. You refuse to admit how wrong you are and were insinuating the covid shot is part of a competitive market.

    But carry on. I do enjoy the laughs!
     
  19. QGator2414

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    I was not talking about a patent. I am taking about the ability to sue these companies for the harm they caused.

    And I all I am doing is arguing it is comical to think the covid shot is part of a competitive market. I would say the same for monoclonals. At least monoclonals worked somewhat. But neither were part of a competitive market.
     
  20. mdgator05

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    Lol! But at least you admit how wrong you are. To yourself. As you are making wrong argument.
     
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