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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ldgator, Apr 26, 2024.

  1. gatormonk

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    It allows you to take “what happened elsewhere” to contextualize the timing and scope of the policy.
     
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  3. gator_lawyer

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    You don't get to make up new rules or punishments for one group of protesters because of what different people did in a totally different place.
     
  4. wgbgator

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    Unless its a mass shooting of course, then its time for thoughts and prayers, not overreactive and preemptive policy. But maybe the 2nd Amendment is special that way.
     
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  5. Gator715

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    The university is free to make up new rules in reaction to whatever they want provided that it’s within the bounds of Florida and federal law, including the US Constitution.

    They’re certainly welcome to use actions in other states as a rationale for policy in their own.
     
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  6. wgbgator

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    Authoritarian mindset, changing the rules reactively and preemptively as the winds blow
     
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  7. tampagtr

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    Dead on.
     
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  8. wgbgator

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    I might be wrong about that though, its just that the overreactive and preemptive policy is "lets make sure we have more guns at school."
     
  9. gator_lawyer

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    And therein lies the problem.
     
  10. tampagtr

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    Remember this

    The title comes from a story within the book in which Vice President Dick Cheney describes the Bush administration's doctrine on dealing with terrorism: If there's a 1% chance that Pakistani scientists are helping al-Qaeda build or develop a nuclear weapon, we have to treat it as a certainty in terms of our response.

    The One Percent Doctrine - Wikipedia
     
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  11. wgbgator

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    Something tells me Sasse wasnt consulting with the ACLU, civil liberties scholars or attorneys in the rules they came up with in a couple hours lol
     
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  12. wgbgator

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    Yeah, I've been having a lot of deja vu from the Bush years since 10/7, I had almost forgot what it was like being called a terrorist for opposing a war
     
  13. tampagtr

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    Worse now. You're a terrorist for even thinking mass civilian deaths are a bad thing
     
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  14. wgbgator

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    For sure, the "adults in the room" and even the media don't have the juice they used to, so its definitely overreaction season to show they still have it.
     
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  15. tampagtr

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    Which is why errant thought has to be stamped out through the criminal law system
     
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  16. tampagtr

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    Student run over was arrested and chained to bed. Kahane. Considered extreme for his time

     
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  17. wgbgator

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    Had an argument with a friend over "is Israel fascist?" - believe it or not, I was on the "its complicated" side. This is a point in favor of my friend who was much less conflicted about Israel being labeled that - between the mob with IDF guys at UCLA and guys like this, it seems pretty mainstream there as far as the governing majority & military.
     
  18. tampagtr

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    I would not go that far as to the nation. Yes, the governing majority would go even further if they could, and they back on the judicial reforms. But it is still a democracy within Israel, arguably more democratic that the US.
     
  19. tampagtr

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    I was a bit frustrated yesterday listening to Ben Wittes, whom I respect immensely, trying to be fair, but quasi-excusing the failure to crack down on West Bank settlers. He condemned them unreservedly, but pointing to the fact that Netanyahu's coalition would fall immediately if he cracked down on the terrorists/colonialists there. No doubt that is true, but it's funny how domestic political considerations are only considered an acceptable mitigating factor for countries we like, but no such consideration for enemies
     
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  20. wgbgator

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    I'm not sure "fascism" necessarily entails totalitarianism (Italy and Austria have elected leaders from fascist legacy parties), but I respect that there isnt a very coherent definition of fascism that anyone agrees on. Unlike Italy or Austria, I think Israel's Zionist/colonial bent makes it a different case from European democracies.