maybe this will help you, if you actually want help. Can lead a maga to facts but can't make them believe facts.... District Attorney Bragg Announces 34-Count Felony Indictment of Former President Donald J. Trump – Manhattan District Attorney’s Office (manhattanda.org) Manhattan District Attorney Alvin L. Bragg, Jr. today announced the indictment of DONALD J. TRUMP, 76, for falsifying New York business records in order to conceal damaging information and unlawful activity from American voters before and after the 2016 election. During the election, TRUMP and others employed a “catch and kill” scheme to identify, purchase, and bury negative information about him and boost his electoral prospects. TRUMP then went to great lengths to hide this conduct, causing dozens of false entries in business records to conceal criminal activity, including attempts to violate state and federal election laws. TRUMP is charged in a New York State Supreme Court indictment with 34 counts of Falsifying Business Records in the First Degree.[] “The People of the State of New York allege that Donald J. Trump repeatedly and fraudulently falsified New York business records to conceal crimes that hid damaging information from the voting public during the 2016 presidential election,” said District Attorney Bragg. “Manhattan is home to the country’s most significant business market. We cannot allow New York businesses to manipulate their records to cover up criminal conduct. As the Statement of Facts describes, the trail of money and lies exposes a pattern that, the People allege, violates one of New York’s basic and fundamental business laws. As this office has done time and time again, we today uphold our solemn responsibility to ensure that everyone stands equal before the law.” According to court documents and statements made on the record in court, from August 2015 to December 2017, TRUMP orchestrated his “catch and kill” scheme through a series of payments that he then concealed through months of false business entries.
you don't understand, each crime is a misdemeanor by themselves but when one is in furtherance of the other it becomes a felony. you really need to quit watching that faux news channel
so now that you finally understand that it isnt a federal crime, and that it started in 2015 before the election, and that it is a felony charge, does that help? where will your goalposts move to now?
I would also add, that charges that Trump is facing is not unheard of for New York. This link highlights 8 other similar cases of people falsifying business records where charges were brought by the state.
Do you understand that EVERYTHING related to hush money and business records is either legal or a misdemeanor for which the statute of limitations has expired. Do you know that? Therefore no other federal or state body thought there was a case to be had and all refused to bring charges knowing they had no case. Bragg campaigned on trying Trump. To make this work he must attach another crime to this and he is trying to attach a federal crime because he has no other NY crime which elevates this to a felony charge. Please tell me you understand this. And this is where most legal minds say he is overstepping. Just tell me the federal crime trying to be attached because the prosecution could not do it and has yet to do it. Bragg’s indictment is too vague. Please tell me you understand this. Just at least tell me if you think this is a pre-election crime or after election crime.
Trolling? Please lay out the rationale for your position..... Something against allowing a jury to see evidence, hear testimony, and arrive at a verdict? Want to skip right to the acquittal?
I am asking each of you to identify the crime and nobody can. That’s my point and why most legal minds think this a sham trial. Evidence testimony and verdict of what crime? Please give your best answer for us simple minds.
Why should we have to regurgitate the crime when it was just spelled out in post #3341? Do you have reading comprehension problems?
The statute of limitations for cases like this is 5 years. However, Bragg has argued the limitations were tolled due to COVID, and the fact that Trump wasn't in NY for years. There's also the argument a sitting President cannot be indicted. This would also toll the statute of limitations during Trump's time in office. Remove those four years, and the statute has not run out. Now, what's your next goal post move?
Gosh, for such an easy, air-tight, no brainer, slam dunk, fool-proof defense, why has Trump tried so hard to delay the trial? You’d think he’d want to get it over quickly so he can get back to work, right?
Maybe Trump should get better attorneys if he was charged with a crime that isn't actually a crime, and even if it is a crime, the statute of limitations has passed. I guess the judge is in on it and allowing Trump to be charged with a crime that's not a crime but also the statute of limitations has passed?
I think you have the compression problem or have simply not been following objective trial analysis. Do you really not know that the prosecution did not spell out the specific crime? I don’t care what the indictment said since it is so vague I want to know if any of you actually know what is going on. Why can nobody even tell me if this is a pre-election crime or an after election crime? The testimony is all over the place like they are just searching for a crime. Is it suppressing information to influence the election or is it something done after the election like todays testimony was all about? Simple question. Or is it throwing poop at a wall and seeing what sticks?
Pre-election crime of falsifying business records. That alone is a misdemeanor, but since the records involved campaign finances and campaign law, these crimes elevate the original record falsification to a felony. This has been explained to you multiple times. Now that this has been explained to you, again, in simple terms, your next move is to move the goalposts, like saying the statute of limitations has run out..until that has proven to be untrue. Then, you're back to being ignorant of any crime being committed...again. It's getting old.
I’m not the one, in the > 3300 posts in this thread, to regurgitate literally the same MAGA points that have been discussed over and over and over above. I’m not the one trying so hard to ridicule the people trying to give you objective answers to what we now know are bogus questions. I’m not the one sneering at others, professing to know it all. But, to answer your question, my comment had to do with showing through an absurd premise that your absolutisms are flawed. Stated differently, if the defense was as simple and straightforward as you claim, this case would have been over very quickly on motion papers. But neither side has a simple, easy case. The prosecutor has a very high and tough burden to tie the clear misreporting to the election fraud issues. So far, the evidence is coming in very favorable for the prosecution, relatively speaking, but the prosecution still has a long road and a tough case. Trump’s team, on the other hand, has some very ugly and difficult facts to wrangle around. Most of those facts are nit in serious dispute. He needs to show that while there were record-keeping errors, those errors were secondary to his main motive of protecting his family, not — what the prosecutor claims — to hide the facts until after the election.
So this is all over a bunch of misdemeanors which might still be inside the statute brought by a person who tries his best to downgrade every crime he can? Thank you again for not being able to answer the basic question.
The statute question has been asked and answered. COVID plus Trump being unindictable during his term as POTUS tolls the statute of limitations. It's five years from the time of the crime. Minus the 4 for Trump's term, and Bragg brought charges 3 years after the crime. 7 years in actual time, but the Judge has allowed for extra time in this case. And the crime again? Falsifying business records. Let me type that slowly so even you can understand. F A L S I F Y I N G B U S I N E S S R E C O R D S!!!!!! A crime that standing alone isn't a felony. But when coupled with trying to hide other crimes, can easily be elevated to felony status. And the other crimes the DA alleges Trump committed revolve around the campaign and campaign finance laws. I can't dumb this down any further.
