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Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack, killing at leas

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gatorrick22, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    Now you are just making stuff up
     
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  2. VAg8r1

    VAg8r1 GC Hall of Fame

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    While you may not have actually cheered Israeli blood I do recall some of your posts in which you tried to rationalize terrorist acts against Israelis. Although they fortunately resulted in very few Israeli casualties I distinctly recall one of your posts in which you tried to rationalize Hamas rocket attacks on Israel on the basis that Hamas didn't have many alternatives to fight "oppression" (paraphrasing not a verbatim quote) by Israel.
     
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  3. BigCypressGator1981

    BigCypressGator1981 GC Hall of Fame

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    When is that? Sounds like everyone wants him out. Any way to speed up that process? I’d love to get that moron out of there before he starts world war 3.
     
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  4. mdgator05

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    Israel always calls elections early, but I doubt it happens while the war is on-going.
     
  5. BigCypressGator1981

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    they don’t have these things scheduled? Wtf
     
  6. okeechobee

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    I may be proven wrong, but it's just for show. What does Hamas gain by accepting Israel's terms for a truce? It's not like they care their people are being slaughtered. Right now, their movement is in its infancy based on what we're seeing across U.S. college campuses and such...
     
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  7. mdgator05

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    No. It happens whenever the Knesset decides it happens. Most of these forms of government have a by a certain date requirement, but they can be moved up if the parliament decides to do so.
     
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  8. okeechobee

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  9. ATLGATORFAN

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    I find it interesting there are no global calls for Hamas to surrender. Even the fanatical Japanese surrendered once the American campaign to use atomic weapons on cities started that devastated their civilians. If Hamas truly cared they would fight in the open or announce surrender today and the fighting would stop and the ‘genocide’ would end.
     
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  10. VAg8r1

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    They may be pissed off at Biden but do you really think that they're going to support a candidate who has used language to the effect that "Israel should finish the job" in Gaza and who has been endorsed by a far right member of the Israeli cabinet who has suggested that Gaza should be completely cleansed of Palestinian Arabs and resettled by Israelis in their place?
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/attac...mp-would-have-been-more-supportive-of-israel/
     
  11. BigCypressGator1981

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    They truly don’t care. They are terrorists. They are not a government like the Japanese that will capitulate if you kill enough of their families. In their minds you’re just making them martyrs.
     
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  12. ATLGATORFAN

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    I 100% agree. These ‘protestors’ are so obnoxiously phony. They need to do with them and what the IDF did with Johnny somali in the tweet below. There is something spectacular about him screaming like the Bit— he is when they put him on the ground. Thinking screaming USA will help him ….. ha. Kudos to the ( smoking hot) Israeli woman for not taking the bait. I’ll stand post with them anytime

     
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  13. VAg8r1

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    Rationally, Hamas should surrender. The problem for Israel as well as the remaining two million plus Palestinian civilian residents of Gaza is that the Hamas leadership has no problem turning them into martyrs if their deaths further the goals of the organization's leadership. As far as Yahya Sinwar the leader of Hamas is concerned the October 7, 2023 terrorist attack on Israel has been an overwhelming success. The fact that over 30,000 Palestinians have lost their lives and now face possible starvation with a good part of the territory reduced to rubble is irrelevant. Hamas has torpedoed the peace treaty between Saudi Arabia and Israel, has seriously damaged the Israeli economy and seriously damaged support for Israel by other countries especially among Americans and possibly permanently and although it's counter-intuitive the terrorist organization would probably be pleased if the war that it initiated resulted in the election of Donald Trump.
     
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  14. ATLGATORFAN

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    I’ll take it further and say not only does Hamas have no problem. But the citizens dying in mass numbers was an intricate part of their overall strategy because they know they can count on loons all around the world to protest against the ‘evil oppressors’ and take the heat off them parachuting in to slaughter innocent unarmed kids dancing at a concert.
     
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  15. VAg8r1

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    Hamas will almost certainly gain the release of hundreds if not thousands of Palestinian prisoners being held by the Israelis some of whom are almost certainly terrorists.
     
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  16. citygator

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    Charlotte
    Two wrongs don’t make a right. Parts of Gaza are in full blown famine mode according to Aid workers. Israeli government disputes the assessment.

    Parts of Gaza in ‘Full-Blown Famine,’ U.N. Aid Official Says

    The leader of the World Food Program said that parts of the Gaza Strip are experiencing a “full-blown famine” that is spreading across the territory after almost seven months of war that have made delivering aid extremely challenging.

    The hunger crisis is most severe in the strip’s northern section, a largely lawless and gang ridden area where the Israeli military exercises little or no control. In recent weeks, after Israel faced mounting global pressure to improve dire conditions there, more aid has flowed into the devastated area.

    COGAT, the Israeli defense agency that oversees Palestinian civilian affairs, strongly rejected Ms. McCain’s assertion, saying that Israel had recently stepped up its efforts to “flood the Gaza Strip with food, medical equipment and equipment for tents.” COGAT also listed several projects to improve conditions in Gaza, including opening the Israeli port of Ashdod for humanitarian aid shipments.

    Some 100 trucks, mostly carrying food, now reach northern Gaza every day, a large increase in supplies that was helping drive down soaring wartime prices, according to COGAT. The Israeli agency also said April saw a “great surge” in new aid, with more than 6,000 relief trucks entering Gaza, a 28 percent increase from the previous month.
     
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  17. ATLGATORFAN

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    i can understand that viewpoint but vehemently disagree. “ 2 wrongs don’t make a right “ is nice to teach your kids but not the basis for a strategy of armed conflict against animals willing to begin the conflict by slicing throats of civilians. Especially when the alleged 2nd wrong was in the original plan of the perpetrators of the first wrong. Again the death of civilians is absolutely part of Hamas’ plan. If people were truly interested in stopping the civilian deaths they would be protesting for Hamas to surrender. But your Columbia and UCLA protestors won’t do that because they agree with Hamas at the expense of the people then proclaim they are trying to protect.
     
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  18. BigCypressGator1981

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    Bottom line is Israel is not effectively eradicating the terrorists despite killing tens of thousands of innocents in their efforts. Time to stop.
     
  19. OklahomaGator

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    If they want Israel to stop, just release the hostages. If Isreal doesn't stop then, it would completely isolate themselves from the rest of the world.
     
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  20. ATLGATORFAN

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    Not sure that’s accurate. Using
    Numbers I’ve posted before the civilian death count in urban warfare is 80-90-% of all deaths. So if 30,000 civilians have been killed then the number would be roughly 5000 Hamas fighters killed to stay in line with historical averages. I’ve seen numbers greater than 5000 Hamas killed but not sure anyone has that answer but if anyone does have numbers of Hamas fighters Killed please post. Hamas purposely retreated into their own civilians centers. It’s so obvious the Israelis could have started this counter by bombing every synagogue school and hospital in Gaza and prob wiped out a bunch of weapons and fighters day 1
     
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