Proud of my university!

And that's where successes (if any) are likely to be had.

They have actually had some great discussions at UF over the years about the conflict(s) over there. Maybe that kind of stuff doesn't reach the simple-minded folks. Easier to latch on and participate when all you have to do is throw a frisbee around on the Plaza for a couple of hours.

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The irony

 

That's likely true, as I'm sure lots of people protesting have been influenced by those things and were inspired to act! Its probably made them more educated on the subject than most people. But I dont think you have to read all that many books to know your country spending millions on killing civilians and endless war is bad.

 

I have no problem with you considering me simple-minded. While I have my opinions on the matter; I'd like to consider there's plenty for me to learn on the subject (including people's views on protesting). I don't have all the answers, but I've seen protests come and go on this campus; some make the news, most don't. I almost always try to engage whenever the opportunity presents. Can't remember the last protest that would have been considered "successful" by anybody outside of the administration.

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I would say many protests on campus have been successful (because lots of them have been more directly focused against school policies), and in this case, I hope you arent measuring "success" as affecting a change in US policy. Many of the encampments were solidarity demonstrations, so it was at the very least an effective show of solidarity. It wasnt that long ago people were like "I cant believe these schools caved to woke by renaming the dining hall or removing that statue of the racist guy!" I would say many people that arent the administration considered those successes.

 

At UF? Last I checked we still have Buckman Hall; O'Connell Center; Reitz Union...I can't recall any that have been renamed. I think a statute was removed at a remote location, but can't recall a student-led protest that led to it.

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I was just saying in general about campus protesting. But I would imagine there have been any number of successful protests on campus over the years over issues that only affected student life and werent of any particular national interest.

 

I would love to see a list of policy changes that have come through student government and/or more formal channels of appealing administration as compared with protests. Is it possible that some schools have better channels and response to this than others do?

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I think these things are interrelated, some issues get overlooked until a protest or expression of grievance raises them. And to your second point, there are almost certainly schools that are more democratic in their approach to student issues, and there is probably a correlation with major donor preferences too. The less an issue bothers major donors, the more likely the school is to listen to the students and have a dialogue. The more it bothers donors, the more likely the admin is to call the cops or shut it down. In the end, its almost always about money. Because as I said before, most schools are basically just real estate schemes that happen to teach kids.

 

This will not help calm things

 

I was on campus last night waiting out the rain delay at Condron. Will be there again for the doubleheader today and like last night, I will not verbally harass or physically abuse anyone I see on campus who disagrees with my beliefs. On to Tally on Saturday for FSU-NC State and then a bunch of other campuses over the next few weeks and because I respect other people and their property, there will not be any agitation from me at any of them.

Lastly, I don’t make the rules either. But unlike the whack jobs protesting on these campuses, I always do my very best to follow them.

 

Looks like we had some outside agitators on campus last night.

 

Well, looks like I might’ve been wrong this whole time about foreign influence and terror-supporters organizing these “protests”. If what’s below turns out to be true, I will a big apology to Hamas:

 

Mississippi males. May they get the justice they deserve.

 

Endorsement

 

And endorsed again

 

After giving repeated warnings to disperse, Hillsborough County sheriff’s deputies tossed at least half a dozen smoking canisters into the cluster of protesters, videos of the event show. “We didn’t expect the tear gas,” Atiq said.


“These weapons should not be used against peaceful demonstrators, even if demonstrators are engaging in minor acts of civil disobedience that do not threaten public safety, such as occupying a park without a permit,” the report concludes.

At USF, police determined that Tuesday’s event was no longer peaceful after officers “observed participants in person and through social media expressing their intent to use some of the items they brought on campus as weapons and to resist university staff members and law enforcement,” USF Police Department spokesperson Michael Lavelle wrote in an email to the Tampa Bay Times. The protesters had locked arms and were holding umbrellas and shields made of wood.

That’s the official line - we deemed it “violent”. The reality from another quote:

“This is Florida, a law and order state,” Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister said in a statement Tuesday. “Every student should be able to freely move about campus without fear of harassment or intimidation. The moment a peaceful protestor arms his or herself with a shield or attempts to occupy a space that isn’t theirs, as occurred today, they will be dispersed.”

Chronister is a local POS that married into DeBartolo money and is eyeing statewide office in the worst kept local secret. When he was running for Sheriff, he winked on occasion that his wife was a Dem and he was moderate. Now he’s going full stupid evil MAGA.

A professor quoted in the story said there are anti-abortion protesters on campus weekly that harass students but that the First Amendment is always cited.


After USF protests, police face criticism of tactics
After USF protests, police face criticism of tactics - Tampa Bay Times

 

Biden being woke again by honoring posthumously Medgar Evers with the Presidential Medal of Freedom, attacking Mississippi values.

Trump will show that he is not woke if he takes power by awarding posthumously Byron de La Beckwith as someone whose life epitomized non-woke MAGA values

 

Always the real goal