Flood the Gates: Escalate

Like this?

 

Definitely. Send these traitors away.

 

I would think they'd feel better moving to Iran or one of the other middle eastern utopian countries don't you think? I suspect there would be enough citizens to help pay their way. But sadly the agitators and brain washers would remain.

 

The protests are being organized and funded by and Hamas and its “marketing” arm. The goal is to absolutely escalate, and to culminate in the total destruction of Israel and the Jews.

Here’s a quick release describing a lawsuit that was just filed against the terrorist instigators.

Greenberg Traurig, National Jewish Advocacy Center, Schoen Law Firm, and Holtzman Vogel Represent American and Israeli Victims of Hamas Oct. 7 Terrorist Attack in Lawsuit Against AJP Educational Foundation, Inc. a/k/a American Muslims for Palestine and National Students for Justice in Palestine | News | Greenberg Traurig LLP

Here’s the link to the lawsuit that describes the background of the organization, funding and purpose:
https://www.gtlaw.com/en/-/media/fi...lang=en&hash=B3D9D0E5C29A86D48411FFC49E7B2142

 

Yep. We’d need a big island to send away the America haters. Of course, Trump voters don’t think they hate America, they just hate America as a multiracial democracy as opposed to a white ethnostate.

 

A variation of putting them in camps?

 

It's certainly NOT "off topic". it's ludicrous to think so, unless one believes storming our Capitol was not militant hatred. I dislike these pro-Palestinian militants, but what the insurrectionists did on January 6 was far worse.

 

I agree, and I'd help pay for Trump supporters to go to Iran or Afghanistan. They'd fit right in with the Taliban.

 

We have a place big enough for them. It's called the United States of America, where we enable and protect political dissent.

 

You realize that they're relying on the same bunk argument that DeSantis used when he tried to deactivate the SJP student chapters in Florida, right? UF and USF refused to do it because it was so brazenly unconstitutional that they feared being held personally liable. DeSantis's cronies on the FL BOG, including Ray Rodrigues, also backed down and refused to go through with it.

I'll just say that when your complaint needs a disclaimer that you're not trying to suppress speech, that's a good indicator you shouldn't file it:

 

I’ll say this, when it comes to pleading a complaint, having filed more complaints than I can recall, it is a very smart pleading practice to face head-on an obvious issue. Your free speech argument is clearly what the terrorist-supporting defendants will claim. And facing it head on will allow the judge to have a good, firm grasp of the issue when the motion to dismiss is filed.

 

They are calling for violence and even terrorism. You good with that?

 

They have a right to do it. Do I agree with it? No. But the beauty of free speech is people get to say things you or I don't like or agree with. We get to do the same.

 

As I said, when you're having to add a section to your complaint that you aren't suppressing speech, it counsels against you filing it. It's like when legislators add a provision saying "nothing herein should be construed as abridging the freedom of speech" to a clearly unconstitutional statute. That doesn't suddenly make the statute constitutional.

I'm also not surprised Holtzman Vogel is involved in this. They're one of DeSantis's go-to firms. And they're trying to take a page out of his playbook. Unfortunately, we already saw his attempt to go after SJP crash and burn. It's rare that DeSantis orders something so brazenly unconstitutional that government actors in the state flatly refuse to do it. And yet, that's what happened. Trying to resurrect the DeSantis plan through a civil suit isn't going to miraculously fix it. Hell, here's one of their allegations about NSJP:
Defendant National Students for Justice in Palestine (“NSJP”) is an unincorporated association without a formal principal place of business or publicly identified leadership structure. NSJP was founded by AMP to provide it on-campus management and control of hundreds of university chapters of Students for Justice in Palestine (“SJP”). AMP controls NSJP and uses it to operate a propaganda machine for Hamas and its affiliates across American college campuses.

I know nothing about AMP. They might be able to get at AMP. But trying to base the case on the political advocacy of SJP's loosely affiliated student chapters is a losing proposition. (There's also the issue of NSJP having no money lol. So what are you really going to get from them?)

Hell, don't just take it from me. Here's why Ray Rodrigues claimed Florida backed down:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/09/poli...-for-justice-in-palestine-chapters/index.html
“The constitutions of both organizations, which were submitted by them at the beginning of the school year when they were registered as an active student-registered organization, clearly state their organization is not subservient or under the national Students for Justice in Palestine,” he said. “Therefore, the universities have not deactivated their university chapters of SJP.”

Rodrigues said that both universities have obtained legal opinions about dissolving these student chapters.

“We have reviewed those opinions, and in short, they raise concerns about potential personal liability for university actors who deactivate the student-registered organization,” he said.

 

Great advice for college students. These cowardly organizers are real great people. Glad my youngest is almost finished with school.

 

Look at who signed the complaint. It is signed by Richard Rosenbaum. He’s not just a guy, he’s the executive chairman of Greenberg Traurig. I’ve had many battles in my career against that firm, but I’ve never seen his name on a pleading. I confess, I know him by reputation only, but I have many friends who are friends. Suffice it to say, he is not a hack - not a political hack or a legal hack. He is the real deal and enjoys an impeccable reputation.

Maybe the terrorists win the day in free speech grounds, maybe they lose because they are funding terrorists (and as an aside, I had the privilege of working on several terrorist cases earlier in my career with one if the lawyers who pioneered the lawsuits (and was instrumental in getting Congress to pass the enabling act)). But what I know of Rosenbaum is that he would not personally sign his name on the Complaint unless: (a) he truly believed every word, and (b) he truly believed it was meritorious. He and his billion dollar + firm have far too much reputational risk to jump into this without believing all of the above.

 

FSU did not have: (a) the depth of research that this legal team, particularly given how much information has recently come to light, (b) the will to risk the public fight with public money, or the commitment to see it through; (c) the resources that this legal team has, which is far more than who signed the pleadings, or (d) the very deep and talented bench that this legal team has.

 

You are not correct. It was an action ordered by DeSantis and carried out by Ray Rodrigues. They had the resources of Florida's government behind it if they wanted. And the state has not hesitated to hire heavy hitters to defend them and thrown endless money at the problem when they wanted to litigate an issue. I've fought them numerous times. They will not hesitate to fight it out to the bitter end. They're not lacking in commitment, resources, or legal talent and research when they want to fight the battle.

You don't get to where Richard Rosenbaum is without being a politician. This is a PR ploy. Target unpopular organizations, try to use your superior resources to overwhelm them, and get the PR rewards that come with filing the case. Even if your case gets tossed, you gain far, far more good PR than bad PR. There's no reputational risk here. They're on the side that has majority support.