In many jurisdictions ... and if ... and if ... that's a long way from every time, isn't it? really? question - do you have kids and would you teach them to discuss like that? "You see kids, if you make a claim that someone points isn't true ... first you change the subject, then you accuse him of being dishonest and stupid. That's my advice!"
Nothing says "necessary farm killings" like having only one shell ready and missing. she's a true farmer, we wouldn't know
You mean this vote here? Yep, exactly what I said... H.J.Res. 64 (107th): Authorization for Use of Military Force -- House Vote #342 -- Sep 14, 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (2001 - H.J.Res. 64) Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 - Wikipedia 29 (58%) of 50 Democratic senators voted for the resolution. Those voting for the resolution were: Sens. Baucus (D-MT), Bayh (D-IN), Biden (D-DE), Breaux (D-LA), Cantwell (D-WA), Carnahan (D-MO), Carper (D-DE), Cleland (D-GA), Clinton (D-NY), Daschle (D-SD), Dodd (D-CT), Dorgan (D-ND), Edwards (D-NC), Feinstein (D-CA), Harkin (D-IA), Hollings (D-SC), Johnson (D-SD), Kerry (D-MA), Kohl (D-WI), Landrieu (D-LA), Lieberman (D-CT), Lincoln (D-AR), Miller (D-GA), Nelson (D-FL), Nelson (D-NE), Reid (D-NV), Rockefeller (D-WV), Schumer (D-NY), and Torricelli (D-NJ).
So, you acknowledge that at least to some degree, what I said is true and you're challenging my assertion because you have a long list of examples of jurisdictions that won't put a dog down under said circumstances. Feel free to list some major jurisdictions where this isn't the case. Due process is already assumed. Also assumed is the act I described took place and the victim is willing and able to prove it. I'll hang up and listen.
Citation for what duty of care a local government owes to any particular individual for failing to kill any particular dog?
I'm not going to bite (pun intended). Noem will still be more popular than Kamala should she be Trump's VP and Kamala did far worse things to actual humans as Attorney General of California. Arguing semantics as to whether a locale has a "duty of care" is beyond dumb, as is the OP of the thread. And then there are some of us getting played by the Democratic machine as they are already in full-on hedge mode for Kamala's presence on the 2024 ticket.
Was an aside, but I thought an interesting one. I was biting on the assertion that a city that doesn’t kill known dangerous dogs would be ripe for a major lawsuit. While I admittedly haven’t gone looking for decisions on dog bite cases against local governments, I doubt the city would have liability - that seems very similar to the “failure to police” kind of claims that fail because sovereign immunity generally blocks negligence claims for core governmental functions and a local government ordinarily doesn’t owe a duty of care to any particular individual in that context.
You're most likely correct. The liability would probably be more focused on the owner if somebody wanted to sue over a bite. That said, it obviously still matters or else animal control wouldn't put dogs down. My point was it's a rather thankless task for animal control and they do it all the time without batting an eye. It's a silly insinuation that Kristi Noem hates dogs and she shot her dog because she's a cruel, hateful person. Everybody knows an animal doesn't stick around for long if it's causing problems on the farm. That she made it a point to write about it in her book shows how obviously difficult it was for her emotionally, because most people who kill a dog in those circumstances are hardcore enough to not even give a damn. That she felt it was memoir material perhaps betrays her struggle to detach from it emotionally. But alas, the DNC strikes again. Much ado about absolutely nothing...
lol at you desperately trying to spin this lady needlessly shooting a puppy (that she “hated”) as some admirable ability to detach from her emotions. Good lord dude.
While some of the maga contortionists have tried to twist this into something normal, common sense and decency say otherwise. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4630266-noems-dog-tale-sinks-chances-of-becoming-trumps-vp/
Look, if you keep bringing up the fact that even some Republicans find this kind of creepy, you're going to force her defenders to bring up Hunter Biden's laptop. You know that, right?
