Miami Recruiting Gonna' Tank Now?

So since Miami has kids going into the portal we have a bad culture? Every single team has kids going into the portal it's what college football is these days. I am not sure I see what you are saying here.

 

This guy def has problems coming his way. This guy is annoying as hell and I totally get the hatred spewed his way even us Canes fans like to rag on him. Thankfully he isn't the main booster for Miami and he isn't even close to being the top. Miami as a few big time families. Mas(Owners of Inter Miami, MasTec and worth 2 billion) and Soffer(Owners of Fontainebleau Hotel and other holdings worth about 5 billion).

 

You’re leaving out those South American drug lords worth mo billions

 

I kind of expected Miami to be like UF in having a lot of billionaire alums but them not having a deep connection to football success. UF is competitive for now, but I wonder if these whales will fatigue or chase another shiny toy at some point and NIL will become the thing of just a few choice schools, making college football even worse than its become.

 

Well of course! But if we talk about it then it could be taxed money somehow.

 

I think NIL in it's current form will not be same in even just 5-10 years. I am all for kids getting money I want them to make as much as they can as fast as they can because you never know when it can end or when your time as a player of value will stop. I also understand it's not sustainable so hopefully these kids and colleges can come to some agreement and get them as employees where there is a salary cap or some sort of level playing field for everyone.

 

There will never be a true salary cap in college sports as long as there is recruiting. Nfl can have a salary cap that works because they have a draft, contractual terms, etc. A salary cap will help universities but as long as there are Uber wealthy boosters that want to win at any cost the bagman will still circumvent any structured payments with an NIL facade or flat out under the table payments.

 

I think if you replace "your own recruits" with "their own" he wasn't really referring to us. But TBH, there are probably a dozen on our roster that will never see the field so aside from having a full practice squad, wouldn't matter if they left and would not indicate a cultural issue here. Of course, only time will tell us who on our roster could transfer this cycle and hardly be missed.

 

I hope not and that there are some rules established that make it... make sense. It's odd to me that players are paid based on NIL which is largely meaningless- faces on a billboard- and there's no limit to what an NIL can choose to pay. How could that not turn out well?

 

He’s a cane.

 

Write your legislature. The ncaa has no real power, and everything they try to do gets shut down by the courts. The politicians are the only ones making any real rules (laws).

 

This is true for initial recruiting but once under contract, it could stop this portal crap. At this point though, why woul the schools want to pay salaries that are being put on the fans.

 

Between the Portal and NIL, CFB will never be the same. I am all in favor of players being compensated legally (no more brown bags Nick and Kirby) but it introduces so many variables into the game that it will take time to stabilize.

Ultimately, it should favor the big boys, with the largest alumni with the most money. In Florida, this should be the Gators. Texas will be hard to beat with so many rich folks highly engaged in CFB. Then you have the odd one off conundrums like Oregon and Phil Knight. Do not forget Ohio State, who has many devoted and well healed alumni. No wonder Saban took a knee! It will be hard for Alabama to compete against the big boys with big check books.

We have a plethora of Bubba’s (Billionaires) in Florida. It is time to start serious courting, even if they are not graduates. Go Gators!

 

I think it’s the same game, just more in the open now. You don’t think Texas was getting all the top recruits in the state? They were. Whether we like it or not, the bagmen have been a huge part of the game and is now transitioning to issuing 1099s.

 

Still a major and very vivid change to CFB. My point was the "bag game" was chump change compared to the green involved in NIL. Hence the departure of folks with less financial resources (Alabama/Saban). This should portend well for the big boys, who can write big checks.

With the double dip of the Portal, simultaneously you have to be able to write those big checks every year. Accordingly, the role of big money is enhanced geometrically. You have to be prepared to write those big checks every year or lose your great players and developed chemistry.

To compete with Texas, we are going to have to find some big boys/girls (see Phil Knight). Plenty of Bubba's to court in Florida.We need to find one or more quick. The double shot of NIL and the Portal makes this a completely different game than the "bag days". Chump change v Big Money Grip. It is not the same game anymore. Go Gators!

 

Not so fast my friend — those big checks can also play a big role in wrecking team chemistry. This is more complicated than you make it sound

 

Over-sign and cut the underachievers....the Saban "process" to a T.

 

Simultaneously you have to be able to write those big checks every year. Accordingly, the role of big money is enhanced geometrically.

I agree with this statement. Herein lies my particular concern. I enjoyed the amatuer status, I enjoyed that a college or university had "ownership" of their football team. I enjoyed the rivalries and traditions.

The new paradigm effects all of these things. Slice it any way you want but College (and High School) Football is now in, or rapidly approaching, a semi professional format.

The positive of course is that players are getting some form of compensation.

The negative is you have a majority of football players looking to "get paid", many have little to no interest in a degree or the school, and the floodgates are open for the ugliest form of capatalism to decide the direction of the sport.

I have read many posts about "How does one invest millions of dollars in recruiting for unproven commodities"? I have also read numerous posts about "billionaires" stepping up to "throw money" at the current arrangement. This of course, in addition to Universities forming "collectives" to help finance NIL.

Do followers of the current state of affairs REALLY believe that "monied" interests are going to tolerate "lassiez faire", unregulated "auctions" to hold up in it's current iteration? Uhhhh when a few billionaires get burned enough, the rules will change, they already are.

Throw in on top of all this mess that the NCAA is a legally hamstrung entity and individual state legislatures will make up the rules. How in the hell will that apply (fairly) to a hundred universities around the nation?? Does anybody think for a second that a state like Alabama would not have legislators try to create "Bills" that favor their particular "In State" institutions?

The point of my bitch is it may take awhile but I could see the disinfranchisment of Colleges or Universities to "private" interests setting up their own leauges, purchasing University 'brand" names and affiliating themselves with "said" university.

Last I checked it was still the "charter" of institutions of learning to "teach", not to field football teams. Think about it, would it not be easier for Universities to simply take a "cut" and get the hell out of the Football business? This may be anathama to SEC schools but the entire country is not as fixated on College football as the folks in the S.E.

I dunno, it may all work out, but can anyone really say unequivocably that they like what has happened in the last 2.5 years? With MUCH MORE unknowns coming down the road?

 

I think that is something that you have to look at from program to program. I don’t think Georgia is losing players that they want to be in their too deep. They are just cycling out the ones that do not cut it and 50% is probably a logical amount of ones that succeeded in ones that don’t.