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CAREER STRIKEOUTS PER 9 INNINGS PITCHED minimum 3,000 inning career IP through Thursday; baseball-re

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  1. gatorjjh

    gatorjjh A Gator with a Glass half full attitude VIP Member

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    Randy Johnson 10.6 4135.1 4875 3.26
    Nolan Ryan 9.5 5386.0 5714 2.04
    Justin Verlander 9.0 3325.1 3342 3.61
    Curt Schilling 8.6 3261.0 3116 4.38
    Roger Clemens 8.6 4916.2 4672 2.96
    John Smoltz 8.0 3473.0 3084 3.05
    Zack Greinke 7.9 3389.1 2979 3.91
    CC Sabathia 7.8 3577.1 3093 2.81
    Chuck Finley 7.3 3197.1 2610 1.96
    Bob Gibson 7.2 3884.1 3117 2.33
    Steve Carlton 7.1 5217.2 4136 2.26
    Mike Mussina 7.1 3562.2 2813 3.58
    Mickey Lolich 7.0 3638.1 2832 2.58
    Tom Seaver 6.8 4783.0 3640 2.62
    Jim Bunning 6.8 3760.1 2855 2.86
    Bert Blyleven 6.7 4970.0 3701 2.80
    Andy Pettitte 6.6 3316.0 2448 2.37
    Kevin Brown 6.6 3256.1 2397 2.66
    Bartolo Colon 6.6 3461.2 2535 2.67
    Dennis Eckersley 6.6 3285.2 2401 3.25
    Don Drysdale 6.5 3432.0 2486 2.91
    Fergie Jenkins 6.4 4500.2 3192 3.20
    Luis Tiant 6.2 3486.1 2416 2.19
    Don Sutton 6.1 5282.1 3574 2.66
    Bob Feller 6.1 3827.0 2581 1.46
    Greg Maddux 6.1 5008.1 3371 3.37
    Tim Wakefield 6.0 3226.1 2156 1.79
    Jerry Koosman 6.0 3839.1 2556 2.13
    Tim Hudson 6.0 3126.2 2080 2.27
    Frank Tanana 6.0 4188.1 2773 2.21
    Gaylord Perry 5.9 5350.0 3534 2.56
    Juan Marichal 5.9 3507.0 2303 3.25
    Vida Blue 5.9 3343.1 2175 1.84
    Jack Morris 5.8 3824.0 2478 1.78
    Danny Darwin 5.8 3016.2 1942 2.22
    Orel Hershiser 5.8 3130.1 2014 2.00
    David Wells 5.8 3439.0 2201 3.06
    Bob Welch 5.7 3092.0 1969 1.90
    Charlie Hough 5.6 3801.1 2362 1.42
    Liván Hernández 5.6 3189.0 1976 1.85
    Phil Niekro 5.6 5404.0 3342 1.85
    Whitey Ford 5.6 3170.1 1956 1.80
    Billy Pierce 5.4 3306.2 1999 1.70
    Jamie Moyer 5.4 4074.0 2441 2.11
    Kenny Rogers 5.4 3302.2 1968 1.67
    Walter Johnson 5.3 5914.1 3509 2.57
    Tom Glavine 5.3 4413.1 2607 1.74
    Catfish Hunter 5.2 3449.1 2012 2.11
    Lefty Grove 5.2 3940.2 2266 1.91
    Mark Buehrle 5.1 3283.1 1870 2.55
    Rick Reuschel 5.1 3548.1 2015 2.16
    Charles Bender 5.1 3017.0 1711 2.40
    Jim Palmer 5.0 3948.0 2212 1.69
    Bobo Newsom 5.0 3759.1 2082 1.20
    Jim Kaat 4.9 4530.1 2461 2.27
    Milt Pappas 4.9 3186.0 1728 2.01
    Dennis Martínez 4.8 3999.2 2149 1.84
    Red Ames 4.8 3198.0 1702 1.65
    Rick Wise 4.7 3127.1 1647 2.05
    Larry Jackson 4.7 3262.2 1709 2.07
    Christy Mathewson 4.7 4788.2 2507 2.96
    Jerry Reuss 4.7 3669.2 1907 1.69
    Amos Rusie 4.6 3778.2 1950 1.14
    Early Wynn 4.6 4564.0 2334 1.31
    Tim Keefe 4.6 5049.2 2564 2.08
    Curt Simmons 4.6 3348.1 1697 1.60
    Robin Roberts 4.5 4688.2 2357 2.61
    Eddie Plank 4.5 4495.2 2246 2.10
    Charlie Buffinton 4.5 3404.0 1700 1.99
    Warren Spahn 4.4 5243.2 2583 1.80
    Joe Niekro 4.4 3584.1 1747 1.38
    Rube Marquard 4.3 3306.2 1593 1.86
    Bob Friend 4.3 3611.0 1734 1.94
    Jim Perry 4.3 3285.2 1576 1.58
    Tommy John 4.3 4710.1 2245 1.78
    Carl Hubbell 4.2 3590.1 1677 2.31
    Claude Osteen 4.2 3460.2 1612 1.71
    Mike Torrez 4.2 3043.2 1404 1.02
    Red Ruffing 4.1 4344.0 1987 1.29
    Charlie Root 4.1 3197.1 1459 1.64
    Player SO9 IP SO SO/BB
    Doc White 4.1 3041.0 1384 2.07
    Doyle Alexander 4.1 3367.2 1528 1.56
    Jim Whitney 4.0 3496.1 1571 3.82
    Adonis Terry 4.0 3514.1 1553 1.20
    John Clarkson 3.9 4536.1 1978 1.66
    Mordecai Brown 3.9 3172.1 1375 2.04
    Bullet Joe Bush 3.8 3085.1 1318 1.04
    Eddie Cicotte 3.8 3226.0 1374 1.66
    Grover Alexander 3.8 5190.0 2198 2.31
    Murry Dickson 3.8 3052.1 1281 1.21
    Player SO9 IP SO SO/BB
    Paul Derringer 3.7 3645.0 1507 1.98
    Vic Willis 3.7 3996.0 1651 1.3
     
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  2. candymanfromgc

    candymanfromgc Moderator VIP Member

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    Where is Kofax?
     
  3. GatorLurker

    GatorLurker GC Hall of Fame

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    Not enough innings pitched.
     
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  4. shelbygt350

    shelbygt350 VIP Member

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    One player who always amazed me was Warren Spahn. He played for some < average Braves teams, except for that 2-3 year run in late 1950s. Yet won 363 games with a lifetime ERA of 3.09. Spahn did not throw much heat, the ball simply moved here there and yonder.

    I remember him and Juan Marashal of Giants going head to head over 16 innings each and both not missing the next start.
     
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  5. GatorLurker

    GatorLurker GC Hall of Fame

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    Spahn and Sain and pray for rain.
     
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  6. ocalaman

    ocalaman GC Hall of Fame

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    If I was building a staff from that list, I would start with Bob Gibson & Whitey Ford, then add Roger Clemens and Steve Carlton, with Dennis Eckersley as my closer.
     
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  7. 74nole

    74nole GC Hall of Fame

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    That’s a great staff @ocalaman — I think I would go with
    Bob Gibson, Randy Johnson, Nolan Ryan, and Bob Feller. My closer would be John Smoltz.
    If it was supposed to be a 5 man rotation then I would add Tom Seaver.
     
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  8. shelbygt350

    shelbygt350 VIP Member

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    The Warren Spahn combo was with Lew Burdette. Lew led the Braves over the Yanks in the WS. Sain was with Spahn in the early 50s.

    Warren Spahn had a home on the beach at Anna Maria Island. He would take a rubber raft out and row in the Gulf of Mexico for hours on end. His arm was made of that rubber. He could pitch for hours, innings and days on end.

    My choice of starters would be: Right- Bob Gibson, Nolan Ryan and Don Drysdale. Left- Warren Spahn and even if not on list Koufax. If on list, Mickey Lolich. I dont need a reliever.
     
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  9. GatorLurker

    GatorLurker GC Hall of Fame

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    I knew some old timers and they said that Walter Johnson was the fastest. Faster than Feller. That is probably true because I have read that early in his career Walter Johnson only threw fastballs because he didn't need a second pitch. He wasn't fooling anybody. It was hit it if you can. I would have him on my staff.

    I would take the Steve Carleton that was pitching in 1972. That was the most incredible year ever for a pitcher.

    I might take Greg Maddux but not with the current strike zone so he is a "no". Hard not to take Nolan Ryan instead.

    Now for the weird pick: Tim Wakefield. After seeing those guys seeing Wakefield would be jarring. Eddie Cicotte would be another but he had a lifetime ban and also threw a shine ball (legal at the time) along with his knuckler. If his shine ball was grandfathered in and his lifetime ban was lifted (maybe it is because he is dead) I would take him over Wakefield.

    Eck out of the pen is a no brainer.
     
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  10. dave_the_thinker

    dave_the_thinker VIP Member

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    Love all the Cards on the list, but I'd trade Clemens for Mickey Lolich.

    Now I'd have two lefties, and three pitchers who put up K's from a 10-inch mound. (The Eck is tall enough that the mound doesn't factor)
     
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  11. candymanfromgc

    candymanfromgc Moderator VIP Member

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    Gibson, Kofax, Paige and Ryan withRivera asny closer. I take my chances against anyone.
     
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  12. GatorLurker

    GatorLurker GC Hall of Fame

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    You were supposed to pick from the list.
     
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  13. shelbygt350

    shelbygt350 VIP Member

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    I actually asked, many years ago, the HOF catcher and former manager of Indians and White Sox, Al Lopez who was the fastest pitcher ever? I thought he would say Koufax (in his youth), Steve Barber, Nolan Ryan or Bob Feller. He said in baseball, every body knew it was Walter Johnson. We know today with technology that Nolan could hit 102-105 mph with today's radar gun measuring from near release vs at home plate. I guess WJ would be a 103-107 mph pitcher. I think WJ was also more side arm.
     
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  14. BrianUF5220

    BrianUF5220 Junior

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    I would take Niekro over Wakefield. His K per numbers are lower, but that could be explained by how long we pitched. He was who I wanted to meet growing up.
     
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  15. GatorLurker

    GatorLurker GC Hall of Fame

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    Niekro with or without a nail file/emery board?
     
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  16. jhfxof

    jhfxof GC Hall of Fame

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    I didnt see Pedro Martinez, but hes in my top 5 SP.. And I hate the Sox. Along w/ Ryan, Gibson(based on what told), Clemons, Palmer(bias)

    closer Felix Bautista(bias, but find better K numbers)
     
  17. wingtee

    wingtee GC Hall of Fame

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    That was incredible! I remember as well
     
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  18. BrianUF5220

    BrianUF5220 Junior

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    i think that was Joe. right?
     
  19. GatorLurker

    GatorLurker GC Hall of Fame

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    I think so.

    So you want Phil?
     
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  20. BrianUF5220

    BrianUF5220 Junior

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    Of course. i do not think Joe was on the list.