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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ATLGATORFAN, Apr 19, 2024.

  1. ATLGATORFAN

    ATLGATORFAN Premium Member

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    Now it makes sense.

    This is absolutely a mass shooting

    Buffalo grocery store mass shooter apologizes for racist attack and receives sentence of life in prison | CNN


    and no. 5 meth head white dudes shooting it out in rural Louisiana elementary school
    Parking lot is not a mass shooting and not a school shooting. You do you man. This is clearly racial to you and is not to me.
     
  2. philnotfil

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    You appear to be all over the place on this, while refusing to answer a some reasonably simple questions.
     
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  4. mdgator05

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    Okay, so if the shooters are on drugs it isn't a mass shooting? Shootings in a parking lot can't be mass shootings? Seriously, at this point, it should be fairly obvious to you that you either can't or won't answer the question as to what is a mass shooting utilizing specific criteria.
     
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  6. ATLGATORFAN

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    all over the place? Every one of those posts are the same, unless there is a typo I missed. I do NOT believe gang turf wars fall within the modern definition of mass shooters. My point has always been the conflation of data. If you look up anytown or any other ‘gun control’ type organization they absolutely include the scenario of 5 gang bangers shooting it out in a high school parking lot at 2am both a school shooting and a mass shooting. Helps with fundraising to say ‘today is the 150th mass shooting of 2024. Just like they did with the Memphis shooting over the weekend That is purposely misleading and not the modern definition of a ‘mass shooter’. Using the Venn diagram yes a number larger than 3/4 would be a multiple but outside the 2nd circle where the majority of the population does not include that in the definition unless they are ideologically motivated and not data driven.
     
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  7. ATLGATORFAN

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    not even sure if you’re making a serious argument. Vegas was a giant parking lot/ outdoor area and of course it’s a mass shooter. Pretty sure the buffalo shooter shot people in parking lot before going inside. Of course that’s a mass shooter. There is a faaaaaar cry from columbine or more recently Nashville. Those are clearly both mass shooters and school shooters. 5 dudes beefing and shooting each other at 3am at a school parking lot is NOT a mass shooting nor is it a school shooting. You know full well the difference in your attempt to play ‘gotcha’ …. Cool
     
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  8. mdgator05

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    All I am asking for is a defined rule of what a mass shooting is and isn't. It isn't a gotcha question.

    But either way, your initial claim was that it was a high percentage of trans people committing these crimes. Feel free to utilize any criteria that you wish (while showing the criteria) and show what the percentage is.
     
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    A lot of your ilk concern troll over Chicago gun crimes or gang violence, but now your argument is “doesn’t count, it’s something different”.

    Not sure why you are so focused on this distinction, a mass shooting literally just means “x” number of people being shot in one incident. That’s probably the least misleading way to look at a gun violence problem. What you are trying to isolate, is the planned attack. The lone wolf. But even that can be further bifurcated into political/religious terrorism vs. “mental illness” (and i guess in your fantasy land you now think trans shooters are a thing). The sheep will respond with their T&P’s and talking points accordingly. I don’t think the innocent bystanders of any of these care about such distinctions.
     
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    This is why the number "150 mass shootings" seems wrong. How 'bout we do this:
    If the event makes the Today Show, Good Morning America or the CBS Morning Show, or any of the 3 major networks evening news half - hour, then it's a mass shooting. Can be combined with school shooting depending.

    Given that criteria, I bet there hasn't been anywhere near 150 so far this year.
     
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  11. philnotfil

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    What is your definition of mass shooting?
     
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    3 or more victims: mass shooting? or does it not count until there are at least 25? ( if we raise that bar high enough we can reduce the number of mass shootings per year to less than a handful).