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Not eating our way to obesity ?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by duggers_dad, Apr 16, 2024.

  1. duggers_dad

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    Studies below …
     
  2. duggers_dad

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    As a recovering fitness trainer I still encourage folks to remain mobile and active but …

    In fact, the men who were the most obese and sedentary had a similar risk for all-cause mortality (HR=0.56) as the “normal” weight men who were the most physically fit (HR=0.49). This finding certainly didn’t make the headlines. Beliefs among the general public about both the benefits of exercise and the dangers of obesity as people age appear beyond what the evidence supports.

    Junkfood Science: Paradoxes — Compel us to think
     
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  3. AgingGator

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    Agree. Personally, I would rather have 80 years of living life well, then 90 years with 85 spent depriving myself of things I enjoy, and 5 being captive in the house or at a home.

    “The proper function of man is to live, not to exist. I shall not waist my days in trying to prolong them. I shall use my time”- Jack London
     
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  4. PITBOSS

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    PSA. Yes obesity can kill and yes it’s related to food. A big concern is visceral fat in the midsection that can hamper organ function.
     
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  5. NavyGator93

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    Agree. Fighting weight is just a silly term I use, at 60 I hope I am fighting no one soon.
    However, a lot of my enjoyment comes from hard core exercise with friends. Carrying 10 extra pounds up several thousand feet on a bike is tough.
     
  6. NavyGator93

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    I don't feel like I deprive myself of anything from a food or drink perspective. I do ride and hike for hours on end with my extremely athletic sons, and that is priceless. Two days ago I walked over 15 miles thru Berlin/Potsdam with my 26 year old cousin. Ended the day drinking a great Pilsner on the River Spree. Amazing.
     
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  7. antny1

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    Why not have both longevity of age and function? I post this from time to time when the subject comes up. Not that this is the only region that experiences this longevity as well as quality of life but I imagine they share the same qualities and methods.

     
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  8. philnotfil

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    I was struggling with my weight and someone got in my ear about trusting my body, it will tell me when to stop eating, and if I really feel like I need to burn off some calories, go for a walk after dinner. Sounded good, and way easier than what had been losing me a pound a week to get from 260 down to 240. So I tried it for a couple of months and gained 40 pounds.

    One thing they don't talk about enough is how our bodies are always trying to maintain our heaviest weight. Avoiding gaining weight is way better than losing weight.
     
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  9. philnotfil

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    And breathing.
     
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    Stretch receptors take time to send signals that you are full. Many people eat until they are stuffed. I cut restaurant meals in half and save the rest for later. I feel hungry for a few minutes but it goes away and I stay satiated for a while.
     
  11. WESGATORS

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    Some of this talk reminds me of Larry Vettel saying "it's not the beer, it's the food that the beer makes you want to eat" (or something similar). Alcohol can have an impact on what your body thinks it needs, too.

    Go GATORS!
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  12. NavyGator93

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    That is what I am trying for, we will see. There is also the possibility that for all my planning and care, I could fall off the side of a mountain or get hit with a terrible disease.
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    Actually, it’s easy to lose weight.

    And then you learn your body’s not very happy about the way you starved it.
     
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    That's further than I'd want to walk, but being able to do that is by itself a sufficient reason for you to want to be physically fit.
     
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    True :) Losing weight is easy, keeping it off once your body knows what it can have is hard.
     
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  16. duggers_dad

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    Did they discover correlation is causation and I missed it ? Damn! I knew that would happen!
     
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    Further than I had planned, broken up over the day. We took the metro some but so much was worth walking. Probably 5 miles just walking Frederick the Great's property (Sanssouci).
     
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    I'm a shade over 6 feet. Graduated high school at 165. Slowly the weight came on ... ate and drank pretty anything I wanted ... and then I was up to 228 before I realized that I was actually fat. Started Atkins, then switched to a more reasonable South Beach. Dropped down to 200, then a little less. As one friend said about himself, I realized I didn't I didn't need a second plate of spaghetti.
    I don't diet anymore. Eat pretty much what I want. But now I couldn't eat that second plate. Settled into the low 190s. The fact that I gave up drinking a few years ago hasn't hurt.
    Wouldn't mind dropping a few more, but I'm not worried about it.
     
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  19. PITBOSS

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    yep. with a lifetime of eating/drinking whatever we want, the curve isn’t a slow, straight decline but drops fast the older we get.
     
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