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Not eating our way to obesity ?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by duggers_dad, Apr 16, 2024.

  1. duggers_dad

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  2. boligator

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    Bottom line is you eat monstrous size portions (as most do in the US) while consuming "junk" food in between and sit on your butt all day, you're going to gain weight and potentially become morbidly obese (with all the lovely side effects).
     
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  3. rivergator

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    How can weight NOT be related to calories consumed and calories burned?
     
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  4. antny1

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    This crap again. Contrarian stance on everything. Why even try to debate with someone who has it all figured out?
     
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  5. citygator

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    Calories arent real.
     
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  6. WESGATORS

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    It's weird when data is provided per capita when individual results can be analyzed. If you have 3 people, and they take in 60 grams of sugar a day (180 total), then you have one increase theirs to 100 and the others reduce theirs to 25 (150 total), the total amount of sugar consumed has decreased, and the one individual will have a higher chance of the excessive glucose acting as a toxin within the body. It's fair to ask "are they trying to be manipulative with this research," just make sure you ask it with the same level of enthusiasm regardless of which side is being represented.

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  7. WESGATORS

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    The whole thing reads like "the numerator has nothing to do with the value of a number, it's the denominator that matters."

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  8. AgingGator

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    What I’m getting from this article is that if you manage your denominator properly (get enough activity) then you can more or less do what you want with your numerator.

    Now this is oversimplified but if one does stay active, then there are very few foods that need to be cut out, or even demonized as we so often do.

    Everyone’s metabolism is different and very few people are active enough to have 3-4 Krispy Kreme’s for breakfast, hit the pizza buffet for lunch, grab a few beers and then hit the Never Pasta at Olive Garden with bread sticks for dinner, followed by a bowl of ice cream at 9:30 before you go to bed at 11:00. But getting enough physical activity (and everyone’s enough is different) will keep the vast majority of people safe from obesity. Having one of the things I listed above everyday will be fine with the proper amount of activity following the meal ( following being the key word)
     
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  9. G8tas

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    You cannot out exercise your diet if you eat whatever you want. There are not enough hours in the day
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    It’s an old wive’s tale. Gorge yourself with food and you’ll eventually become sick of it.
     
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    The column points out that the Amish are, on average, healthier than most people.So if that doesn't prove food intake has nothing to do with obesity and health,I don't know what does.:cool:
     
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    Turns out that not only does the body have a thermostat, it has an “appe-stat.” It’s why neat formulas like calories in, calories out aren’t the whole of the matter. And it’s why your fat friends may eat less food and so-called healthier foods than you do.
     
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    I feel this is especially true as you age.
    I average over 800 min/week of Intensity Minutes on my Garmin. This is 400 of vigorous or 800 of moderate or any combo thereof. I still have to be careful with what I eat and drink to stay at fighting weight. That's ok though, I also get the hundreds of other benefits of a healthy lifestyle.
     
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  14. duggers_dad

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    Old World Amish typically register as chubby by BMI …

    Junkfood Science: Lessons from the Amish
     
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    Persistent weight gain through adulthood is a biological fact and is thought to confer health advantages.
     
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    The diet industry in the US is around $75B a year. People making money off stupid fads and telling people good things about their bad habits.
    There are a million different ways to eat but for me, outside of regular exercise, the following has kept me disease and medicine free.

    "Eat food.
    Not too much.
    Mostly plants."
     
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    Painstaking research has revealed that …

    (A) we’re all going to die

    (B) food tastes yummy
     
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    Archer has been banging this particular drum for decades:

    "By 2020, women spent more time sitting in front of the TV and using social media than cooking, cleaning, childcare, exercise, and laundry combined."

    All of his contributions eventually get back to that singular idea. Although in the past I don't recall him including "exercise" on the list of allowable activities for women. I recall being assigned a study of his back in the early 10's or so at a conference when I was getting my personal trainer recert, and it was the same thing. He called it "Household Management" in those days.
     
  19. NavyGator93

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    Both true. For me it comes down to the last decades. Most people will steadily degrade from 50 or 60 until they die at say age 85.
    I would like to barely degrade until 84.5 and then rapidly fall off. It's about healthspan, not lifespan.
    Let's see how that works out.
     
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  20. AgingGator

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    But what is your range between “fighting weight” and obesity? Most people can’t stay at fighting weight but a few pounds over isn’t going to hurt anything. Hell George Foreman sure wasn’t at his fighting weight during his second career but you had to admire the fact that a man his age could go more than one round.

    I guess my point is that it’s not all or nothing. People can still be very healthy above their ideal body weight.
     
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