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Joe Biden is a great president (trigger warning)

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by citygator, Apr 4, 2024.

  1. gatorchamps0607

    gatorchamps0607 Always Rasta VIP Member

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    Please do list the inaccuracies. So far you guys begged for people to give you substance and the one person who gave you substance you laugh off as someone with a lack of knowledge instead of using your overwhelming intellect to shoot down his post with facts and not flame.

    Don't worry, I know you're not going to change this is why I troll you and Im happy to continue until some of you actually take a step back and figure out that you are simply not likeable and you don't own facts. You continue to act as if your side and your people are right and above board and that you would TOTALLY vote for a Republican... ever. GTFO here with that crock. Lack of self awareness is something you guys are really good at which is strange since you guys self identify as smart.
     
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  2. BigCypressGator1981

    BigCypressGator1981 GC Hall of Fame

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    Lol @ you calling everyone smug in this post. Good lord man.
     
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  3. BigCypressGator1981

    BigCypressGator1981 GC Hall of Fame

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    Oh yeah?
     
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  4. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

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    Sure. It’s easy. There are a thousand posts dispelling this nonsense but here you go. I expect it not to make a difference because his wasn’t really an attempt at debate as you’ll see:

    The GOP is against minimum wage increases, labor union protections (they all voted against striking rail workers in lock step), almost all voted against $35 insulin, but they love the Trump tax break that sent this backwards further, oppose almost every single attempt to redistribute money, help the poor, or raise wages for the working class. This is a joke of a comment from anyone who ever casted a vote for the GOP.
    Republicans vote against insulin bill as price soars, dismaying diabetics
    Minimum wage measures rejected by House committee for the 52nd time
    Full list of Republicans who voted against paid sick leave for rail workers

    Grocery prices remain elevated due to a mixture of labor shortages tied to the pandemic, ongoing supply chain disruptions, droughts, avian flu and other factors far beyond the administration’s control. Robust consumer demand has also fueled a shift to more expensive groceries, and consolidation in the industry gives large chains the ability to keep prices high.

    Yet Republicans all voted against price gouging measures put forth by the democrats and have only complained about it without having one iota of an idea what to do. IN FACT a dozen GOP states canceled a covid era funded program to feed hungry school kids. Why? Because they dont give a crap about hungry people they just want to complain about prices that their donors actually control.

    These 15 GOP-led states are rejecting summer food aid for children | The Hill

    Surrendering the world stage to the Russians is an idea the majority of people disagree with.
    We are producing more oil than ever, exporting more oil than ever, and generating more of our energy from wind and solar than ever by far. When you adjust for increases in wages our gas prices are very normal. Refining costs are high and those companies making a killing right now otherwise gas would be even lower.
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    What causes high gas prices in the US?

    As for energy prices. More of the same.
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    Electricity Prices Adjusted for Inflation

    However, even if you dont believe the reports the only bill passed to fight gas price gouging was opposed by every single republican.

    House passes bill to crack down on alleged gas price gouging

    Ridiculous. I am not responding to this moronic claim.
    That is a bullshit statistic. Instead of comparing to 2019 which shows that income has risen MORE than expenses that study used 2020 as the base. That is right. It used a year in which prices crashed from low demand, people received record stimulus and most low wage people were out of work. That year was a statistical anomaly. If you compare to 2019 people are actually better off. No lie.

    https://home.treasury.gov/news/featured-stories/the-purchasing-power-of-american-households

    Who cares? We have never needed it. Joe sold it for more than we paid for it making $4B in profit, and reduced gas prices in the summer something like $0.15 a gallon. Magically wishing for Trump wasn’t going to lower prices in 2022 when that was done. Gas prices were a concern and that was the action the President had at his disposal. Drill baby drill wouldn’t have done anything and we are already pumping records out. Quibble all you want this was no big deal.
    This is ridiculous. As a percent to income credit cards are not at record levels. They are actually quite low.
    Household Debt Service Payments as a Percent of Disposable Personal Income

    We need more affordable housing. I assure you the only legislation addressing homelessness the GOP passed was declaring it illegal and slashing funding, as if that is going to fix the issue.

    GOP bill would withhold funds to fight homelessness, criminalize living on public property

    The Republicans walked away from bipartisan negotiations under Trump in 2017. Made no progress under Trump. And again, walked away from bipartisan negotiations in 2024. There is no will to fix the border on the right. None. Immigration sky rocketed under Trump in 2019 until covid hit. He had no solution. None. Mexico paid for nothing. There is no will to fix the border on the right. Say it again. There is no will to fix the border on the right.

    How Republicans Abdicated on Immigration Reform

    it seems fairly clear that Republicans are only interested in obstructionism, poison pills, and blame when it comes to immigration. As Democrats look to exhaust each and every avenue for reforming our broken immigration system, a look back at how a few key Senators have shifted shows just how far the party has strayed. While Republicans may have once been interested in a deal, they’re no longer interested in even coming to the table. For years they claimed that once the border was secure, they would come to the table. But at the height of the Trump Administration, when the border was restricted more than ever before, nothing serious came forward. And because of that, it seems increasingly clear why Democrats are pursuing immigration solutions through the reconciliation process. There should be room for bipartisan progress on immigration, but it can’t happen unless Republicans return to reality.
     
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  5. gatordavisl

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    Inaccurate. There are only a few far lefties on the site. It's also not an echo chamber, as there are plenty of cons on board. The "echo chamber" claim is a symptom of victim complex (That's not name-calling, btw).
    Inaccurate - hyperbole
    Inaccurate - even when called upon to support this claim, you provided examples that are not name-calling, then moved the goalpost to "smugness."
    Inaccurate - nowhere did I claim "my side is better than your side," nor did I call anyone names.
    Inaccurate - you're still here.
    Inaccurate - this is not putting anything nicely. In fact, you claim to desire honest discourse, but post this. You don't want honest discourse, you even admit to trolling.
    Again, you admit to failed attempts at trolling.
    Is this that honest discourse that you cherish?
     
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  6. Gatoragman

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    I won't dispute any of the items you have listed except one. I would look closely at each bill that you are claiming the pubs voted against. You mentioned poison pills on bills. This is not a right only tactic. Some have red lines they will not negotiate; this is true for both sides. I just wish we could break legislation down to what we can agree on and pass that. End of the day we all have somewhere between 40-60% of bills that both sides can agree on. But the right is just as guilty as the left, let's only focus on what we disagree about so we don't accomplish anything then we both can run around claim it is the other side's fault.
     
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  7. HeyItsMe

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    I’m not sure when it became a trend to make fun of elderly people, but Trumpers sure do get a kick out of it despite the fact that Trump himself is old and has a history of doing dumb shit. Selective memory. If you wouldn’t want someone making fun of your parents or grandparents when they are in an advanced age and more prone to accidents, don’t do it to our president. Trump has made it cool with his supporters to be exponentially cruel, he’s a massive shit stain on our country and the world and everyone will be better off when he finally croaks (hopefully sooner than later).
     
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  8. rivergator

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    Uh, Thanks?
     
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  9. higator85

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    Maybe in his two months away he’ll attempt to master English, spelling and grammar. I’m not holding my breath though.
     
  10. gatorchamps0607

    gatorchamps0607 Always Rasta VIP Member

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    I hope you get a rebuttal from TJ because you seemed to have put in a lot of effort here and I commend you for that. Well done.
     
  11. WarDamnGator

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