Roe v Wade Overturned

There are some groups that don't value healthy and loving families.

Nihilists don't believe in anything, but I get your point. There are certain values the vast majority of mainstream cultures share. But I think you put in in a way that gives people a little too much credit.

Maybe I'm just cynical when it comes to people.

 

You owe it to these women to read the full article, to hear their stories that are being dismissed by the state as "edge cases".

Seven Tennessee women were denied medically necessary abortions. They just had their first day in court.

The state’s attorneys made several arguments about why the litigants don’t have standing, which would mean they don’t have the proper authority to file a lawsuit. Courts have to decide on cases where the plaintiffs are directly affected, and the Tennessee says that’s not the case for the seven women.

“That is because any of their direct, future injuries depend on a series of hypothetical and speculative events — first, a future pregnancy, then, a rare reoccurrence of health conditions serious enough to cause them to pursue abortions,” the state’s motion to dismiss reads in part. “Each link in this chain is itself too tenuous to support standing—much less can Plaintiffs show an adequate prospect of all contingencies occurring.”

The state’s attorneys also argued that these medical conditions are rare.

“There are 80,000 births a year in Tennessee,” said Whitney Hermandorfer, the director of the Strategic Litigation Unit within the attorney general’s office. “What we’re talking about here are edge cases.”

 

Trump reminding miss Lindsey that he’s got pictures of him doing unspeakable things. (I assume from pecker but could be Putin). Look for him to come crawling back as obsequious as ever.

‘I Blame Myself for Lindsey Graham’: Trump Continues Verbal Flogging of Republican Senator


I blame myself for Lindsey Graham, because the only reason he won in the Great State of South Carolina is because I Endorsed him!” said Trump, who followed that missive with another post stating that Graham “should study the 10th Amendment and States’ Rights.”

Graham made some waves ahead of the 2022 midterm elections when he introduced legislation that would ban abortion after 15 weeks of

 

Wow, this is heavy stuff.

 

Just to be clear. Before Dobbs, abortion was an individual right. The GOP didnt push decisions down to the states, they ripped it out of the hands of the individual and gave it to mostly old white men in the south and midwest.

 

Meanwhile in the "great" state of Florida, we have a higher infant mortality than 50 other countries and half of other states. Why? Because we don't put maternal care as a priority. No expansion to medicaid like most states (including red) took advantage of. 460,000 children (including newborns) are without healthcare coverage this year when they had it last year. Disenrolled from medicaid.

Call these people what they are, proBIRTH, not in anyway proLIFE.

 

Need to keep these experiences out there. What happened when they took away women's rights is not something that should happen in the United States of America.

 

Not sure how to word this, but I remain appalled at what we witnessed, and I think it is driving a lot of perception. The sheer indifferent cruelty of the pro-life political movement, the seeming zeal to inflict legal sanctions and permit suffering, eroded any mixed feelings I had on the issue. There is no justification to give legal weapons that empower those people to enforce their worldview.

 

Through his statement that abortion laws should be left to the states Trump has in effect stated that he agrees with this decision:
Arizona Supreme Court rules state must adhere to century-old law banning nearly all abortions
In a swing state that Trump lost in 2020 and in which he is currently leading by a small margin, the state's supreme court decision could end up influencing enough female voters to put it back in Biden's column.

 

There is a lot of argument over whether he said he would not sign a nationwide ban, if presented. That is the customary formulation you expect a candidate for executive office to stake out a position to measure against:

“Many people have asked me what my position is on abortion and abortion rights,” Trump said in the video posted on his Truth Social site. “My view is now that we have abortion where everybody wanted it from a legal standpoint, the states will determine by vote or legislation or perhaps both. And whatever they decide must be the law of the land — in this case, the law of the state.”

Also, there is the issue of appointing officials at places like HHS that will disapprove mifepristone and otherwise use the Comstock Act.

 

It is SO telling that pre 14th Amendment law is being resurrected. It really captures the zeitgeist.

 

Interesting indicia as to the current politics of the question:

 

Maybe I'm not a lawyer but I basically cant fathom how you can pass a law in the present and then as a court conclude that actually a law from 1864 supersedes it. Maybe you have to go to a special judge school for that kind of thinking.

 

Didn’t offspring killing increase after Dred Scott v. Sandford, I mean Roe v. Wade was overturned ? I don’t get the residual angst. Are women wanting drive-thru abortions too ?

 

MAGA judge school?

 

And if Katie Hobbs did propose an alternative repealing the 1864 statute and providing more access to abortion Kari Lake would undoubtedly oppose it. Not unlike the politician that she worships the defeated former president she is trying to be on both sides of the issue.

 

Gut wrenching. Having had sepsis twice in the past 3 years this ad hits hard. It was not complications with pregnancy but my health overall is not good and I am severely immuno compromised. Doctors were right on top of it hitting it early and hard but it takes its toll on anyone who has infections that turn septic. I know I came out of it with cognitive impairment.

 

So sorry. God Bless.

 

It's the sort of genius that emanates from FedSoc land. That, more than anything, is why I will be voting for Joe Biden in November. These are the sort of hacks Republicans will put on the federal bench. And the federal judiciary is bad enough as is.

 

Your two quotes from habermas a professor at Jerry Falwell founded liberty university make me think that he has suspect ways of acquiring data.