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Proposed Super League - hope this hasn't already been posted..

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by 4everaGator, Apr 4, 2024.

  1. 4everaGator

    4everaGator GC Hall of Fame

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    I tried searching to make sure this isn't a dupe and didn't come up with anything.

    "a 70-team league would be formed featuring every Power Five conference team, Notre Dame and SMU included. The remaining Group of Five teams would be in a separate division with relegation.
    The 50-plus second-division teams would have the opportunity to compete their way into the upper division, creating a promotion system similar to the structure in European football leagues. The 70 permanent teams would never be in danger of moving down, while the second division would have the incentive of promotion and relegation."

    Full article here: Proposed college football Super League features 70 permanent members, relegation system
     
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  2. exiledgator

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    Interesting idea, but I don't like the caste system where the OGs cant be touched.

    Let the Vanderbilts get relegated if they don't care to compete
     
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  3. bike1014

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    Well, this isn't "proposed"....It's just an idea by a journalist that may or may not stick.

    At a high level, I've been predicting this for about 7 years. This was an easy path to see: Consolidation by the relevant brands, then independence from the NCAA.

    Essentially a minor-league played by college kids, using the brands of the universities.
     
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  4. Wanne15

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    And make it 40 or so teams.
     
  5. Spurffelbow833

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    I'd like it better if the upper 70 were subject to demotion. When someone gets promoted, someone gets demoted.
     
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  6. Gatorrick22

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    I read this article posted on some other site yesterday, or the day before, and I have to admit that this proposal is EXACTLY what I do NOT ever want college football to become. I read though this proposal and (did not like it at all) and then got the the most telling and worst part of the whole entire proposal.


    “Athletes need to be paid
    and are going to be paid,” Syverud told The Athletic. “Most of the rules against paying athletes, including some of those that are still in place, are likely to fall in the courts. We’re going to need to sustain women’s sports, Olympic sports and we’re going to have to have competitive equity and some methods to have a labor structure that is sensible. For all that, I think you need a more centralized national college league.”




    1. "Athletes need to be paid."
    They already are getting paid, but what's NOT happening is they are NOT employees of the college or university.. and I like that part. The SCOTUS NEVER allowed for that nor did they change that student athletes can be paid employees. NIL is NOT about being a paid employee to a certain school or university.

    2. "... are likely to fall in the courts."
    These people are assuming that the SCOTUS intended to make NIL a vehicle to make these student athletes employees? I think that is a wild stretch of the what the highest court in the land already ruled... on this subject. And they mentioned NOTHING about employment to a school or university. So, making a case that some OTHER LOWER COURT will try and change the rules in college football is disingenuous at best, and fiction pretending to be fact at worst.

    3. "...we’re going to have to have competitive equity."
    Define equity? There are far more minorities in college football than the national average population, so I do NOT see how much more "equitable" college football can be. But if this is about smaller schools demanding a seat at the big-boy table, for get about it. There is no was schools that invested billions of dollars thought over 100 years of sports should allow for some johnny come lately that has no football traditions to just jump on is a take what they feel they deserve from the schools, like many in the SEC, that have well over 100 years of traditions and have been building on their sports programs to make them the best in the nation. Forget that "equity" crap.

    4. "some methods have to have labor structure." This is code for unionizing all of college football, and all that red-tape that come with it... NO thank you. We don't need to hand college football over to the greedyazz lawyers and national unions.

    5. I think you need a more centralized national college league." I love the fact that college football has conferences and does NOT have an all controlling commissioner like the NFL does. Nationalizing it federalizes it, and that brings all the political crap that comes with that unionization BS... Just think about how politicized they can, and most surly would, make college football if we were to let them nationalize it. I like local control, and conference commissioners, not ONE NFL dictator type overseer pretending to be fair and balanced... equitable.

    Sports, for me, has always been a place where we fans can all become one people all united in one common cause... to beat the tar out of the other team. Lol...That is very UNLIKE POLITICS where we all despise each other, even if we were to wear the same team jerseys. Sports, college sports in particular, is my escape... my escape from politics and anything union that ironically divides us.

    My answer is HAIL FREAKING NO... I would not like a proposed college football super league. I highlighted (up top) the very last paragraph in that article that I linked below.

    Report: College presidents, execs discussing massive, game-changing football model
     
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  7. 96Gatorcise

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    Love it but too many teams. We all need to be honest here, there are maybe 32 teams that can compete. The rest are perennial pretenders.

    Form a super league, a Division one and a group of five.

    Promotion and regulation every 5 years based off of avg wins/losses of the 5 year period.
     
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  8. archigator_96

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    I was curious about that too. If there are 70 teams that can't get demoted, then how does one of the other teams get promoted? Would there be a 71 team league then? Doesn't make sense.
     
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  9. 96Gatorcise

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    It's in the article. 70 permanent teams and 10 from the 2nd tier that can be regulated. 8 - 10 team divisions.
     
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  10. Spurffelbow833

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    We should be in danger of relegation after the last 14 years and especially everything from the shoe toss forward. If we need that kind of incentive to shit or get off the pot, so be it.
     
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  11. sierragator

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    and how embarrassing would that be, to get demoted to the lower division. Hope like hell that never happens!
     
  12. gainesvillegreen44

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    no. No we wouldn’t like it lol
     
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  13. thenazz

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    Ridiculous, in every way. I don't see how this is "proposed," it's just someone's odd fantasy.
     
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  14. 4everaGator

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    Thanks for y'all's responses. Now I'll give mine. I believe that if the ACC truly destructs (if FSU and Clemson have left) then that's going to college football more broken than it's been by the Portal and NIL. How does one go about righting this ship that is drastically gone off course and taking bridges down?

    Creating a Super League like this would be a very drastic measure as this would mean abolishing the tradition of conferences and nationalizing the sport. Making organizations bigger usually makes them a lot worse, especially where members of Academia are involved so there is grave danger in going this route.

    I firmly believe that the conference structures shouldn't be tinkered with. I would hope that the SEC would refuse to participate in such a plan and would simply operate as the SEC power conference that it is. The problem is so many other teams would be chomping at the bits to join the SEC. Letting a bunch of teams join would have a similar effect to creating a Super League.

    I haven't finished thinking this through but I'm going to have to end it here and sleep on it.
     
  15. murphree_hall

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    This is a really bad idea. The main thing that needs to get fixed is the playoff system, and they are pretty close to getting it right. I think it needs to be 16 teams with no bye. None of this 12 team with bye nonsense. But... it's much better than the 4-team joke we've been subject to. I wonder how many of UF's NY6 bowl teams could have advanced and won.
     
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  16. ozgatorfan

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    And disengage them from the university as much as possible academically. It’s ridiculous to call them students.
     
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  17. Wanne15

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    I like the demotion thing but 70 is too many. There are maybe half that that are trying to win.
     
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  18. Gatorrick22

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    This proposal is nothing more than an attempt to change who rules college football. It's an attempt to change the way it's run... more like the crappy NFL with one all controlling commissioner beholden the the unions and lawyers, and not the universities and their administrations like it is today.

    The NFL really needs to just invent an in-between college and NFL league of their own. And they need to stop trying to take over control of college football.
     
  19. Wanne15

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    I’m not sure the nfl wants anything to do with running things. They are hands off and have a free minor league. Minor leagues don’t interest fans and if the tiok all the talent, college wouldn’t be interesting either.
     
  20. Gatorrick22

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    It's a multi-billion dollar enterprise and unlike the professional sports leagues in the U.S.A.. We might not be "for sale" so to speak but many professional sports leagues are under consideration to be bought by foreign interests. Like Golf and just look at the influence China has on the NBA... The Saudis are interested in buying an American sports league too.

    But for now, and forever, college football needs to keep it's independence and identity, and college football needs to stay in the hands of the universities and conferences.