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Tallahassee Police Officer caught on video framing driver for a DUI

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gator_lawyer, Apr 3, 2024.

  1. homer

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    Wow small world. I was going to mention Keen being in a wheel chair. He’s been gone a while. I’m still friends with Dee Dee. Her and Pete (retired police) live in Apollo beach. Betsy married Paul Rockhill another friend from the past.
    Do you remember all the Redner fires? Those were my cases. Me and my partner solved those fires and eventually got the torch convicted. Our star witness was in the back seat of the car when the deal was made. She was a dancer at the Mons.The guy who paid for it walked after the feds got involved, took over, and tried to attach RICO. They lost their case. If they had left me alone I think I would have gotten a conviction. Got to know Redner pretty good during the investigation. I had a wiretap on his phone at the Mons V for a while. Crazy case with lots of twists and turns. Lots of fun doing undercover with all the nekkid dancers around. lol. My wife was cool with it so that helped.
     
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  2. WarDamnGator

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    There is an interesting passage in the linked article in the OP ...

    After Oliver poured the liquor out, she asked to move Riley from her patrol car to Mueth’s. This change made it possible for Mueth, not Oliver, to be responsible for writing the arrest report. It also allowed Oliver to avoid signing the report. If she had, she’d be signing a document she knew to be false.

    Is that true? The article does say later that the arrest report was written by Mueth, instead of Oliver, even though Oliver seemed to be the one pressing the arrest.

    So, cops switch the detainee between cars so Officer A can feed Officer B bullshit for the arrest report, Officer B signs the report, then both have deniability when the video doesn't match the report?
     
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  3. orangeblue_coop

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    The biggest, dirtiest most corrupt gang in America strikes again. This type of stuff doesn’t surprise me anymore. I can only imagine how many lives this scumbag has ruined by doing this before, and just think of the person who taught them this and the lives that person ruined, and so forth.
     
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  4. GatorJMDZ

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    Oh, I remember the Rockhill/Hapner marriage well. She got an order for protection against him and he had to surrender his firearm at the end of every shift until he was able to prove her affidavit was "embellished." He was a homicide detective at the time, so that caused quite a stir. Of course I remember Redner and the fires. I was on the sidelines at the Bucs game where he got caught snorting coke in the stands. Word starting spreading among the LEOs, you would have thought they arrested John Dillinger. Judge Barbara Fleischer made his life hell for a while. Dee Dee is a simply wonderful person. She was just moved into the drug division.
     
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  5. GatorJMDZ

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    That (what the article said) really doesn't make sense. Every officer would likely file a supplement to the main report, so they'll have a written statement from each cop. Those supplements, along with the main report, aren't signed by the cops. The arrest affidavit is signed and is under oath and I wonder if they are confusing the arrest affidavit (a probable cause statement) with the actual police report. Some forms would also be signed in connection with the DUI such as the 20 minute observation form and a refusal affidavit in the event of a refusal to submit to a breath/urine test.

    That article has other errors. Your first refusal to submit to a breath test is not a crime, only a second or subsequent refusal is. They are also confused about the field sobriety exercises. They are voluntary in the sense they can't physically force you to perform them, but a jury can be told your refusal to do them is conscious evidence of guilt. That would require you be told of that at the time.

    @WarDamnGator I edited my response to hopefully address what you were asking better.
     
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  6. gator_lawyer

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    That might be. But when good cops cover for or bend the rules for the bad cops, they're no longer good cops. There's a rotten culture of "protecting your own" at too many law enforcement agencies.
     
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  7. homer

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    Probable cause is written on the affidavit. How can an officer that didn’t witness the arrest or circumstances write it. They would have to state the probable cause was from statements from the cop doing the stop or some other reason. At TPD the Sargent reviews affidavits before signing as a coapplicant. Or at least they used to. Been retired for a while so maybe procedures have changed? Just doesn’t add up
     
  8. GatorJMDZ

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    The full deposition of the officer. Its 1 hour, 45 minutes.

     
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  9. GratefulGator

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    Thin Blue Line, ami rite?
     
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  10. demosthenes

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    My Ex was a DA and tried to drop charges on a guy that was beat up by police (so severe he had left skin and blood behind in the wall). The elected DA told her she wasn’t allowed to drop charges as they support the police who in turn support the DA’s office. It’s really eff’d up.
     
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  11. GatorJMDZ

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    That really put your ex in a tough spot. Out of respect to her, her boss should have assigned a different assistant to prosecute the case if he wasn't going to allow her to dump it.
     
  12. demosthenes

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    Yes, it turned out ok as far as I know. She ended up dropping charges anyway since she was quitting and as a final FU sent defense counsel video from inside the precinct showing officers beating the defendant to a bloody pulp. Neither defendant nor defense counsel knew about the video and the DA didn’t want them to have it (didn’t technically relate to the underlying charges).
     
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  13. GatorJMDZ

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    That video would have been Brady material and it speaks well for your ex that she released it against the DA's wishes. Sounds like that DA needs a refresher course in ethics.
     
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  14. ValdostaGatorFan

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    Happens in Georgia, too. Well, happens everywhere, probably.



    This officer gave EIGHT roadside PBT tests using two different breathalyzers, in front of a sergeant (one of the breathalyzers was the sergeant's). All eight registered 0.00%. The cop still took him to jail, in front of the sergeant. He blew into the official Intoxalyzer at the jail, twice, and both registered 0.00%. The cop still charged him with DUI after TEN passed breath tests.

    This cop has been doing this for a year, racking up complaints, but he was still kept on the road. At what point does someone take action when one officer has TWICE the number of the DUI arrests as the rest of the entire department, COMBINED.

    But hey, good news, is he's been reinstated, even after dui charges are being dropped left and right.



    Protecting your brothers in blue above everything, innocent people be damned.
     
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  15. danmanne65

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    So you didn’t see the video someone posted of a police training video.
     
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    Of course I have a video of this in action, lol. Don't want to hijack the thread, though.
     
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  17. danmanne65

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    He and the Sergeant need to be fired and put on the do not hire list.
     
  18. ValdostaGatorFan

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    Was going to make a thread about a police training company coming to Kissimmee, but was going to let the number of police threads on the first page die down some. It's wild.
     
  19. NavyGator93

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    Interesting. I drive thru Commerce quite a bit.
     
  20. WarDamnGator

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    I always wondered what the law on that actually is. One of my friends got pulled over, blew a 0.07 or something like that, but the cop made him take another, and got a 0.08. My friend says he should have refused the 2nd test. Would that still be seen as "refusing a test" under the law?