Biden campaign announces it is targeting Florida to flip

I don't think there is a clear link to one Party being hurt because of State Amendments. People know their priorities and weed and abortions can still be had either way, but politics can change our very way of life, and that runs deeper than just voting for a State Amendment.

But... it's not out of the realm of possibilities that people will equate a certain Political view with one or more State Amendments on the ballot, and vote in consort with whom they think stands for whichever Amendment they like.

I can honestly separate politics from Amendments quite easily.

 

Mostly yes. But with 2020 being somewhat close and abortion and marijuana on the ballot, it makes sense to contest Florida. Even if he loses, it might help get abortion across the finish line.

 

Most of the people that abortion effects already for for Biden. It's a matter of which issue drives the people of Florida more. Plus I think people are savvy enough to separate Amendments from federal politics. Like 92gator said... no one in the state of Florida wants to turn Florida into California or New York.

 

One more thing hurting Biden in the 2024 election in Florida. He's already been in office... so the notion that he's a "centrist" is long ago been dis-proven. He is a hard Leftists, and South Florida will not change their hatred of Leftists Dems. He will get trounced in Florida.

 

Hard leftist? How exactly is he a hard leftist? If you had said @wgbgator or a couple other posters on here I could see the argument but this assertion seems very hyperbolic.

 

Again, I can only speak to the med/rec situation in ME. The prices of rec edibiles here can be 1.5x - 2x those of equivelant med edibles.

A med license in ME is $30 for a one year license and requires you to go on a 6 minute zoom to say you suffer from anxiety and have trouble sleeping.

 

Biden is using the DOJ, FBI, CIA, NSA et al to go after his opponents, a.k.a. Republicans.

 

Not saying Biden wins FL at all, but to think that the abortion issue isn't a turnout issue is ignoring what happened in the mid term elections. Everyone wasn't happy with the old abortion rules, which to me means both sides had to compromise. Think it should be somewhere around 18-22 weeks IMO for abortions.

 

'Hard leftists' famously love cops and the FBI/CIA, checkmate

 

Not sure it will be a turn out issue, we shall see. The abortion question is a state's issue, so no matter what Florida does about it abortion will be legal in some other state. And I also do NOT think Florida wants to make it totally illegal. I have yet to hear anyone say that.

 

No, but 6 weeks is a crazy short period of time. I can behind anywhere from 16-24 weeks.

 

6 weeks seems way too short, yes. You might as well tell people to go to Georgia to get an abortion.

 

His argument is literally just parroting the GOP talking points and confirming what I said about it being a very successful communication strategy for them, so I'm really not sure why he's "shocked" when I basically said the same thing as him.

I'm really at a loss for why the board's Republicans are disagreeing with me saying the GOP has employed a very successful strategy with Latino populations in Florida. Are they disagreeing with the irrefutable fact that the Hispanic vote in Florida has definitely shifted to R in the last 6 years? Or is it the part about how the GOP runs commercials and ads in Florida directly linking Biden to Cuban or South American dictators? Both of those things aren't really up for debate. The votes have shifted and the GOP has run those ads.

 

Florida is a purple state. Last election governor cycle had a bad Dem candidate, gerrymandering is a bitch there, and the democratic party has been dysfunctional, plus the Florida GOP is very organized. But it is a purple state.

 

I'd be more afraid of Florida turning into Alabama based on the current state of affairs.

 

Just to remind all....that is six weeks from the first day of the last known menstrual period. It's a fake 6 weeks to go along with a fake heartbeat.

 

Assuming this is true, that would be illegal, not a “leftist” position. No political party or platform has that as a position and abusing your station transcends political ideology. I think the argument you are making falls pretty flat when J Edgar Hoover was a strong supporter of Republicans and he created the book on weaponizing the FBI against people he didn’t like.

 

While this is nominally correct, I think its also true that "Blue Texas" is more likely than "Blue Florida" in the next 20 years.

 

Exactly. Make the Pubs spend money they don't have in a state they had probably taken for granted.

 

Florida is perhaps slightly more blue than Ohio, another famous "Purple" state that hasn't meaningfully voted Democrat since Obama in 2012.