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Grocery Store Inflation

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  1. BLING

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    Yes, the article literally says that - as I pointed out a big chunk of that “other 38%” is the cornmeal.

    I’m not arguing against inflation existing, but for those of us who buy real food there is no way it’s 50%. I see a crazy dichotomy between packaged foods and the produce/dairy/meat depts where inflation was much lower. If you buy packaged goods you might think inflation is 50% or 100%. If you buy mostly raw ingredients it’s much harder to notice. I’m sure there’s plenty of stealth inflation as that lady pointed out “cheap” things like dry beans up 24%. I’m not saying all inflation is avoidable, but most of it sort of is by making better choices.
     
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  2. Gatorrick22

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    So, can you live on bananas?

    I noticed meat and every single dinner food item soaring in price. The CPI is a joke...
     
  3. BLING

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    Meat dept has not “soared in price”.

    No idea what a “dinner food item” is, but if you are talking about prepared foods, then yeah some of that has soared in price as much as 50% or 100% if the brand feels they can get away with it. I guess you actually have to pay people to make your meals for you. ‘Magine that.
     
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  4. gator95

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    The data begs to differ...

    Why beef prices have stayed so high - Marketplace


    Beef prices could hit record highs in 2024, experts warn: Here's why
     
  5. BLING

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    Ground Beef is up 8% on the year. Meh. Still always seems about $5/lb at retail. I usually spend a bit more and get the lean. Sometimes on sale for cheaper, sometimes it isn’t. In the context of people talking about 50% inflation I’m not sure what you are showing me here. You are showing an example of 8% inflation.

    Look at the long term chart man. Beef’s all over the map. It’s pretty volatile and things like droughts and disease play a role. Sounds like the expectation from economists is for it to go up a bit more, but they fully explain the why. Sooo….Bidenflation?
     
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  6. Gatoragman

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    The chart that was added in thread says it all.
    Approximates food inflations.
    2021 5%
    2022 12%
    2023 3%
    Any way you look at that we are paying over 20% more than just 3 years ago. Hard to rationalize with income because I highly doubt the vast majority have not seen 20% raises in 3 years.
    I don't understand why so many here on the left can't just accept that is what we all are seeing every day. We can all argue the cause. But the reality is that is real increases at the grocery store and nearly everyone everyday faces it.
     
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  7. gator95

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    So now we are at the rationalizing portion of explaining inflation LOL. Prices are up anywhere from 25-50% for people buying groceries from 2020 until now. Yeah, that's awesome news!
     
  8. BLING

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    Oh no, I believe those official numbers. I don’t believe nonsense like “muh groceries have doubled”. I totally believe 5%, 12%, 3% as in addition to being official stats, it also reflects the reality I see. 2022 was the outlier year, almost like there were major supply chain issues or something happened the 2 years prior?
     
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  9. gator95

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    Yeah, let's not believe real grocery receipts LOL. Brilliant! Sorry, I need to put my head back in the sand...
     
  10. Gatoragman

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    As I said we can argue the causes all we want and may agree or disagree on them, but I think most folks that go to the grocery regularly can see such a big jump in such a short period. It doesn't matter policy decisions' the President always gets all the glory and all the blame for inflation and gas prices rightfully so or not. Higher food prices and higher fuel prices will make it hard for some to vote to continue as we have. the past 4 years. It doesn't help either when nearly every speech made by Biden talks about how great things are in the economy and how we will be green and off fossil fuels in a short period. He has created the narrative of how common everyday folks that are lucky to get 30 minutes a day of news view him.
     
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  11. AzCatFan

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    Inflation is real. And a big reason why was labor shortages across the globe that resulted in supply shortages. It's simple economics. Similar demand, lower supply equals higher prices. And when you look at the globe, the US is actually doing well comparatively when it comes to inflation.

    And for the most part, people's wages have kept up with inflation. Last November, 6 in 10 workers were earning more in real wages as compared to a year ago. Doesn't mean 10 in 10, and there were those struggling for sure. But raises and people getting new jobs during the great resignation. as a whole, people were doing better.

    Last, if you are worried about inflation, Trump is NOT the candidate to vote for. Tariffs are inflationary, as costs are passed along to the consumer. And like we saw during the pandemic, a decrease in labor supply causes significant inflation. And Trump wants to deport a significant amount of our labor force (about 8 million undocumented immigrants).
     
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    We care. But Publix is like Disney. You bitch and moan about the prices, but you still come back.

    Also, Publix has a monopoly in my neighborhood. So I’ll just keep paying $10 for a bag of grapes.
     
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    Florida’s favorite grocery store seeks to be uncomplicated in a complicated world

    This guy definitely agrees
     
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    Got two hash browns from McDonald’s for my kids awhile back. $2.19 each plus tax. Damn near $5 for those two tiny pieces of fried potato. Kid at the window looked at me like yeah I know … I know. I’m guessing he gets that a lot.
     
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  15. tilly

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    You should check again.
     
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  16. tilly

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    Processed and packaged food has increased no doubt, but you can certainly live off of the walls of the grocery store. Thats where real meat, produce.....and beer ;) are kept.
    (live better and longer as well). Those dont seem to have jumped up like the (processed and preserved) stuff in the aisles in my opinion.
     
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    The price of fruit loops has certainly gone up
     
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  18. philnotfil

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    This matches the reality of what I've seen at the grocery store a lot better than the 50% being claimed by other posters.
     
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  19. lacuna

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    Good advice, Tilly. I'd never given much thought to charges or accusations of bias or disinformation as I do my own research. But due to your suggestion to Rick22, I decided to read up on fact checking sites. Came across an article in 'The Florida Times Union' supplying information on a number of fact checking sites. It was published in a 2012 edition of the paper, but think it's likely still factually valid.

    Fact Check: So who's checking the fact-finders? We are
    FACTCHECK.ORG
    "FactCheck.org is a nonpartisan fact-finding project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania. It has been attacked as a leftist group in an email that says that Wallis Annenberg, president and CEO of the Annenberg Foundation, contributed $25,000 to the Democratic National Committee.

    "In March 2007, Wallis Annenberg did personally donate $25,000 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. This had nothing to do with FactCheck.org. And, according to the Federal Election Commission campaign contribution database (www.fec.gov), she has also given to numerous Republican campaigns.

    "Brooks Jackson, a journalist who launched FactCheck.org, told the Times-Union that the group's charter stipulates nonpartisanship.

    "It is ironic that the viral emails charge FactCheck.org as being a leftist organization when philanthropist Walter Annenberg was a fervid Republican, as was his wife Leonore. But even so, the foundation has never influenced FactCheck.org one way or the other, Jackson said."
    _____________________

    David Emery, from about.com, has sagely advised -
    “In the thorny search for truth, there’s no substitute for doing one’s own research and applying one’s own considered judgment before thinking oneself informed.”
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    In this linked article the author informs the reader "fake news is not a new thing."
    “In the thorny search for truth…”

    “In the thorny search for truth…”
    "Fact-checking has become a big thing. Everyone is talking about fake news these days. But it’s not like it is a new thing.

    "The earliest newspapers in America were famous for inventing stories and printing slanderous attack pieces. Benjamin Franklin would create various pseudonyms to write under and then offer fake accounts of events and such. Franklin, as First Postmaster General, used his position to disallow his adversaries to mail their newspapers. The Federalists went so far as to get mobs to smash the printing presses used by the Anti-Federalists. The media back then fought dirty in a way we can barely imagine these days.

    "The modern mainstream media, however, has gotten sneakier in some ways. An example of this is how some people in the media were working directly with the DNC and Clinton campaign, such as sending them articles to edit before publishing. And it doesn’t take long to observe right-wing media to realize they are also working close with Republicans, such as all repeating talking points that were put out by right-wing think tanks. If you really want to get angry about the moral failure of journalism, read about the propaganda model which Noam Chomsky (among others) has written about.

    "In response, many Americans turn to fact-checking websites. One of these is Snopes. It’s been around for more than a couple of decades, debunking rumors online long before most people knew much about the existence of an internet. But what qualifications does Snopes have? Why should we trust them to tell us who to trust?

    "It’s not as if Snopes does investigative journalism. The couple that started the website had no education or experience that would be relevant. They simply felt that someone had to do it. The reality is that, beyond motivation to do so, their opinion is worth no more than anyone else’s. They don’t necessarily have access to any info that isn’t available to you. They do have some decent people on their staff, but some of their writers are questionable. Take this bio, for example:..."

    Snopes Exposed? Snopes Got “Snoped”? Not So Much

    Examining the credibility of a popular hoax slayer

    No, not Snopes!

    Failed Daily Caller ‘Writer’ Throws Temper Tantrum, Exposed as Liar After Being Debunked by snopes.com

    Is Snopes.com run by “very Democratic” proprietors? Did they lie to discredit a State Farm insurance agent who attacked Obama?

    George Soros owns snopes.com
     
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  20. tilly

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    Depends on where you shop. Too Hot has them posting for free every day. ;)
     
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