Florida Supreme Court allows abortion & marijuana ballot initiatives; overturns abortion protections

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/04/01/abortion-florida-supreme-court-ballot/

While this terrible for the women of FL, as well as other surrounding states, I have to imagine this is hugely motivating for pro choice voters in FL and elsewhere.

This could be a dog that caught the car scenario.

 

Taking your canine analogy a step further, that will take an already angry pack of voters and make them rabid.

 

Pre pandemic most of our net immigration was dimwitted, bitter, nasty pensioners (think corrupt cops) retiring and moving to Florida as climate refugees. The prototypical Trump voter. More recently we’ve been getting well educated, wealthy climate refugees sufficiently mobile to work where they like. These are definitely not tRump voters. Hopefully a lot of them moved here.

 

Exactly.

 

Am I understanding it correctly, that, if both measures pass, a woman will be required to be stoned on her ass when she gets an abortion?

 

More likely they'll stone her for getting an abortion

 

I figured “stone” would be in there somewhere.

 

If I ever have to read a Supreme Court decision - state or federal - I'll die a happy man. I'm having hives just from reading the tortured dissents in the ballot initiative case.

 

You could have left off the first two sentences and still made your point. Personally, I'm not too fond of snarky generalizations.

 

But these particular initiatives are solely in Florida. And it won’t make a lick of difference in Florida to the general election. Every state will need to have similar ballot initiatives to drive voter turnout.

I am far more worried about the independent and Democrat turnout than you. Republican voters will vote in the same numbers they always do; they’re generally consistent. Biden will need huge turnouts for him to win- he had the turnouts in 2020 (Hilary did not in 2016), but Biden is not a popular candidate anymore. I think most voters prefer someone else and generally speaking those who vote for him will be voting against Trump, not for Biden.

 

Careful what you wish for. Elected trial judges do not provide the best talent pool. It’s a horrible process.

What we need is a process whereby judges are selected by a non-partisan committee based in merit-based criteria.

 

We already have elected judges in Florida (they are non-partisan elections), just not at the highest levels.

 

I was only speaking for Florida and I think it's great news. We will have a chance to get some of these right wing terrorists out of Tallahassee

 

I believe popularism is the worst method for selecting a judge. And partisan selections are even worse. That’s why there needs to be a selection by nonpartisan committees based solely on merit-based criteria. We need to completely eliminate politics from the judicial branch.

 

Precious few actions make liberals angrier than making it a little bit less convenient to kill unborn children.

 

Please start at the top.

 

Reality is no fun …