America Goes Stupid: Education Optional

Was that your uncle Trperd who was teaching toe in the country of Erica?

 

Thank you for sharing that article. I'm passionate about education. It's a fact that the American education system is a mess. This is not the place to get into details, but I would note three things: the systems across the country have become highly and unnecessarily politicized; the voucher system so much in vogue will ultimately fail under it's own weight; and teachers should be paid substantially more.

 

Such an unfortunate assumption. As I stated before, there is no singular American education system. Teachers are undervalued just about everywhere in the world, cept maybe Finland. May as well just suggest that humanity is a mess.

 

I'm visually impaired. Sorry about the bad typing. I'm trying to do better

 

LOL!

Florida is doing just fine. As much as you want to believe it is not.

 

Oh my! Where to begin here?

Once again, in your haste to insult you have ended up looking even more foolish then before this post. My wife has been in education in and out of the classroom for 35 years now. I have put four through Seminole county schools. Additionally, my younger daughter is also a teacher who just got her masters last year in curriculum development. If that is not enough for you to send you back under your rock, my youngest son is 21 and still in school.

Teachers are in short supply for a multitude of reasons. The reason you cite is probably number 490 out of the top 500. But you go on stroking yourself there big fella.

 

Its not an assumption. It's a fact. Sorry we disagree on that. Do you like it as it is in, say, Florida? Hillsborough County, for example, is short 400 (FOUR HUNDRED) bodies in its system. Teachers are disillusioned, overworked and underpaid. Who's responsible for that?

 

I didn’t say it wasn’t fine. You said something that should be easy to back up since you’re confident it’s far better off. How?

 

It's a perception, a belief, a projection. Whatever you wanna call it. Calling it a fact is a flawed assumption likely based on anecdote. I taught in FL schools for 10 years (nine in Hills Co) + a few at UF, one at Manatee, and a bunch privately. Worked with way more great teachers than poor ones. Still have friends who teach in FL at great schools. My gig is teacher ed, so I spend a whole lotta time in MN/WI schools. You likely were not referring to the quality of teaching and perhaps something more systemic, but that gets into generalization, which is why I called your statement to question.

If you suggested that gov in FL is hurting education, I'd be on board. Outright dismissing education in the U.S. as "a mess" and stating that as fact is silly.

 

It is easy to back. And I did. Shoot. Just look at the acceptance rates and scores it takes to get into Florida Universities.

You keep focused on your one data point lol!!!

 

You’re either being dense or disingenuous. Not sure which. To show Florida was impacted less than other places you’d actually need to show that.

I suspect you are so far gone on this subject that your arguments are rendered unintelligible. From the OP:

“Even the length of school closures during the pandemic was not a particularly useful predictor of absenteeism. On average, districts that were closed longest have experienced similar increases as those that opened sooner.”

 

I'm going by that list in the OP. Look at the top 15 states and do your own quick research.

 

One day you will realize the idea that the SAT score defines whether a student is getting a good education is just not the case. But you keep harping on one data point that gives you the confirmation bias you desire.

 

Want to know what all these states at the bottom have in common and why your singular data point is worthless?

They all have the highest percentage of students taking the test. Meaning they have a lot of students taking the test that do not plan to go to college.

Average SAT Scores by State (Most Recent)

 

You made the claim that Florida is better off. I provided one single point and asked you for your proof Florida is doing better since the OP linked article it says closure had no impact on the topic we are discussing. Prove you have reading comprehension skills with your next response or continue to randomly post shit no one is arguing.

 

I just showed you why your data point is worthless. There is a reason all of the states with the lowest average sat scores have the highest number of students taking them. I know you are smart enough to understand why.

Your singular data point that you attempted to use is worthless and pointless. You failed in your attempt to try and say Florida is worse off/not doing good by posting data without context. While I provided the US World and News Report which is one of the publications respected on the issue. Carry on…

 

Population. Size matters.

Mogan n Mogan

 

Derp derp.

 

You lost me, rick. The OP is about school absenteeism, not the quality of higher education. Am I missing something?