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EPA announces new strict emissions rule for heavy trucks

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by OklahomaGator, Mar 29, 2024.

  1. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

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    https://www.ccjdigital.com/regulati...b1a1a8539b3cf4d0f0&oly_enc_id=5301D3464678I9Z

    There is going to have be some big leaps in technology to get there in my opinion. The heavy duty vehicles will be the toughest as the power needs are there for those big vehicles.
     
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  2. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

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    End result? MORE INFLATION... higher food prices... and no proof that the biggest polluters like China will follow suit.
     
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  3. channingcrowderhungry

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    A lot of of garbage companies actively seek out pre-emissons trucks to avoid DEF systems. A blown DEF system will cost you as much as a motor. I get the reasoning but it's all kind of window dressing.
     
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  4. OklahomaGator

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    The same with front end loaders but every year that goes by makes it harder to do. The last two we have purchased now have the DEF system.
     
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  5. BLING

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    Interesting.

    Totally unrelated, but I’ve been seeing a lot of tiny Japanese vans on the road lately. Something like this, some even smaller. I’ve seen a couple used as mail jeeps by contracted mail carriers (not USPS employees).

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    I vaguely knew the reason, but it reminded me that after 25 years you can import any car. These cars were never allowed into the United States originally because they failed emissions and safety standards. So seemed pretty crazy that 25 years later (after modern cars have gotten much safer and more efficient, that all of a sudden these would be a-ok to drive on the roads). It’s a loophole that makes no sense.

    I get grandfathering standards for a number of years (totally necessary to allow vehicles to finish their normal “useful life” and for businesses to be able to slowly upgrade and/or retrofit), but any time there’s a meaningful standards change its bound to create some weirdness as you describe in garbage trucks. But this “loophole” for old cars struck me as kind of crazy. I’m sure some people like being able to import exotic or rare cars and be able to register them, but seeing some of these super cheap death traps as daily drivers is pretty crazy in 2024. Who knows, with the way laws sometimes conflict or make no sense, maybe there’s a soon to be underground market for 25+ year old foreign trash haulers.
     
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  6. l_boy

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    I have no idea if these proposals are reasonable or feasible, but to the point about China, to the extent we create a market for such vehicles, then China will likely start producing them to sell worldwide and then use also internally. You are seeing this with electric cars and clean energy.

    Also China does have some motivation to reduce air pollution in their own cities.
     
  7. Gatorrick22

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    Do DEF systems keep that nasty black soot from spewing into the atmosphere? If so that's a definite must have, IMHO.
     
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  8. WC53

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    So trains? :)
    Lofty goals which are good to have in order to drive technology increases. Now what are the penalties?
    Maybe get rid of the SUV baby truck loophole first. I love diesel