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FDA Settles Ivermectin Case, Agrees to Remove Controversial ‘Stop It’ Post

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gatorrick22, Mar 22, 2024.

  1. danmanne65

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    Explain how I deflected. You called it a discussion I said neither of us have the education or knowledge to debate these topics. You said you never asked for a debate, so I used your word to convey the same meaning.
     
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  2. g8trjax

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    It was so bad all you could do was go WTF...Judge orders Illinois hospital to give COVID-19 patient ivermectin despite FDA warning
    There were cases like this all over, most hospital's wouldn't even give the families loved one's the chance.
     
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  3. duggers_dad

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    Americans still testing at a manic rate. They cannot stop testing. And as long as they keep testing, the illusion of a forever pandemic will be sustained, going on 4+ years now. Stupifying.
     
  4. VAg8r1

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    Some studies from 2021 indicated that natural immunity was superior to the immunity through vaccination. A number of those studies also indicated that immunity from a previous infection (natural immunity) combined with the vaccine is superior to natural immunity alone.
    Durability of Vaccine-Induced and Natural Immunity Against COVID-19: A Narrative Review
    SARS-CoV-2 Hybrid Immunity: The Best of Both Worlds
     
  5. QGator2414

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    Thank you for stating exactly what I said…

    Everyone knew Natural Immunity was superior. Omicron did not care. If you were healthy the shot meant nothing but unnecessary inflammation for most…
     
  6. VAg8r1

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    The data didn't support the conclusion "that the shot meant nothing". What the data did indicate was that while natural immunity did last longer than that from the vax hybrid immunity has been show to more effective in terms of both magnitude and durability.
     
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  7. QGator2414

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    Just stop. The shot causes inflammation. We know that. You will not see the cdc or fda admit to the fault they made by giving EUA to every age group. Shoot they still want to jab a kid which is criminal.

    You know those with natural immunity were more protected than those who took the shot. You know the shot if it provided any protection was at best a few months. You know the unhealthy are the ones are risk regardless of age but as you get older it exponentially got more dangerous based on being unhealthy. These shots should have never been authorized for a healthy person of any age. We now know that. I can get the EUA for unhealthy older people at the beginning but after omicron it was over. But we screwed this thing up royally!!!
     
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  8. AzCatFan

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    NI might be better than vaccine alone. But hybrid immunity is the best of both worlds. And vaccine immunity is better than no immunity. In short, hybrid > NI > Vaccine > nothing.

    And you can't get vaccine immunity without taking the shot. And you can't get hybrid immunity without taking the shot. So want the best odds for you. Take the shot! Anyone who is arguing otherwise either has an agenda, is an idiot, or a combination of both.
     
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  9. QGator2414

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    An @AzCatFan is the definition of know reality but refusing to admit. Knows his kids were harmed. Knows his kids did not need the shot. Yet justifies it instead of looking for accountability.

    Eventually he will get there but it is hard to accept when you were lied to with the propaganda that was fed to the public. And I get that. We only have about 5% of the population that refuses to accept reality at this point. But that percentage is far higher here on too hot lol...
     
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  10. QGator2414

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    Like clockwork. Inflame your body for no real reward. Big Pharma/cdc/fda salutes you!
     
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  11. Tjgators

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    Repurposed therapies can be generically manufactured at very low per-course costs. Are you saying Ivermectin would cost the end user (or government purchaser) the same as the vaccine? One would think there was way more money to be made with a vaccine that did not stop you from getting the virus or spreading it.
     
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  12. channingcrowderhungry

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    This logic falls apart when you realize The companies that made the vaccines in the US aren't the same as those making ivermectin. Merck would be pushing the shit out of ivermectin and making boatloads of money if it was effective. They didn't make a vaccine, thus they had nothing to gain and everything to lose from not promoting ivermectin.
     
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  13. duggers_dad

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    Reminder: Ivermectin, vaccines … Big Pharma.

    I remind because some view Ivermectin as a symbol of resistance.
     
  14. philnotfil

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    How do we get natural immunity?
     
  15. l_boy

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    There was never any evidence it had beneficial effects before and then controlled studies confirmed that it had no effect whatsoever. So again, I have no idea what “open and honest” conversation you guys wanted. These are the straight up facts.

    There were other drugs that initially showed some modest promise, such as benedryl and SSRI’s. But once controlled trials were done, they had no beneficial effect. The danger of entertaining that these other drugs might work, when there isn’t solid evidence that they do, is people use them in lieu of more proven treatments, when in fact they don’t do anything.
     
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  16. AzCatFan

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    Typical Q. Has anecdotal evidence from 2 people, and that Engineering degree, and knows more than the entire medical scientific community!!! If it wasn't so dangerous, I'd be ROFL.

    Like I said before, anyone who doesn't understand the chain of immunity, and that hybrid is the best, followed by NI, then vaccine, either has an agenda, is an idiot, or a combination of both.
     
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  17. HeyItsMe

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    In order to gain natural immunity you have to first catch Covid, which could make you deathly ill if not vaccinated against, so it’s straight up moronic logic to advocate for it in the first place.
     
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  18. duggers_dad

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    No one can “catch” a non-existent disease. You can experience age-old sysmptoms, which can be explained without reference to a pathogen, OR you can just test positive based on a diagnostic which is calibrated to detect segments of a mental construct …

    Drosten “SARS-COV-2” PCR Paper
     
  19. Tjgators

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    but science is the key term here.

    Were the lockdowns scientific or a terrible knee-jerk reaction that affected society negatively in so many ways?
    Did the vaccine rollout follow the scientific method before it was released to the world population? Were the animal and human scientific studies successful for SARS-CoV? Were there any human studies on SarS-CoV before the Covid vaccines were released? We had somewhere around 15 years to test the science on SARS-CoV before Covid hit in 2020.
    If the new mRNA vaccines were safe, why would Pfizer and Moderna have sweeping liability protection? What other drugs or vaccines have this blanket of protection?
    Why did the media suppress so many injury-related stories and blackball the 100's of doctors that spoke out against the vaccine? This obviously hindered the science-based discussion you and I would liked to have.


    I don't think it's as political as some may think. There are lots of liberals who refused the vaccine and there are millions of Fox watching Pubs that got the vaccine. I think somewhere around 25% of people chose not to get the vaccine. I think this group of people question the government, big pharma, and the media. The pressure to get the shot is why the 25% number is so low. There are many that regret getting the vaccine and feel they were given bad advice.
     
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