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Push off

Discussion in 'Nuttin but Net' started by twodaparty, Mar 22, 2024.

  1. twodaparty

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    Anyone else notice the push off on the game winning shot? Dude said ZP fell I thought the refs were terrible. I mean we literally were one of the best teams at getting to the line all year and instead in this game they went to the line time and time again. I don’t know how many free throws they had but it was a ton.

    TG got the tech when he (understandably) was irate after another poor call. Conventional math says “oh it cost us the game.” But I strongly disagree. The team was on their way to being blown out and I feel like the tech made us play more inspired down the stretch.

    Thoughts?

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  2. murphree_hall

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    Bad no call. I’m not really surprised, because refs rarely make that call. I’m not mad at TG’s tech. I think it fired up the team, because they started fighting back right after, and also the refs needed to be scolded. Sometimes you just have to go off on them. Lanolin was running around with the unsportsmanlike technical foul activity all game and he started getting brazen with it. I’m not for legislating the fun out of the game, but you can’t be doing the too small and rock the baby gestures consecutively on every play.

    Anyways, it will sound like sour grapes, and I’m sure if it was us who won, we wouldn’t care if we got away with stuff. Hate to see this team lose in the first round, but I had fun this season and can’t wait until next year. This is going to be tough to wait.
     
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  3. akaGatorhoops

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    Coach Golden saw it….

    "I saw them throw it in to Simpson, and I thought ZP did an incredible job staying down and staying between him and the basket, and Simpson somehow got about five feet of separation off ZP, and made a really tough skilled shot from the baseline.
    But again, I thought ZP did his job. Stayed in legal guarding position. Stayed between the ball and the basket, and, again, somehow Simpson just created about seven feet of separation to get that shot off."
     
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  4. GatorPlanet

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    It was a definite push-off. The Gators were never allowed to play defense today.
     
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  5. akaGatorhoops

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    I don’t think the technical foul fired up the team… and if it did, we had bigger issues. We hopefully didn’t need to manufacture emotion in an opening tourney game.
    I just think we were forced to play with urgency, and Clayton… who had been on the bench… went bonkers.
    I love Golden’s passion and in due time … I think he will command respect from officials. But right now - I think he is too young and inexperienced to be in their ear as much as he is. For all the working of officials he did… we actually got a worse and worse whistle as the season progressed. At least that was my observation. I think he needs to pick his spots a bit better.
     
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  6. gatordavisl

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    Wait, you think it's CTFG's fault we got crap officiating this season? :emoji_thinking:
     
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  7. akaGatorhoops

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    no
     
  8. VTGator

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    I totally agree. For whatever reason refs don’t like and respect Coach Golden very much.
     
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  9. beechgator

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    "Like and respect" have nothing to do with it. The refs either totally suck at their job or they're on the take.
     
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  10. rzinger

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    Too brazen to be anything other than the second scenario.
     
  11. G8R92

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    Golden says he’s had 3 techs in his whole career. And that ref has given him 2 of them. Hmm
     
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    I do think his youth hurts him in that area. The refs don’t seem to respect him like other seasoned coaches.

    Mayve next year it will be better.
     
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  13. UFGator402

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    Tough no call, but truth is that’s rarely ever going to get called in that situation. It’s more painful due some of the horrific foul calls against us throughout the game. It’s an offensive foul for sure, but probably not even in the top 5 of calls during the game that pissed me off.
     
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  14. antny1

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    This notion that foul calls change in different situations is silly. At least it should be. Ticky tack fouls maybe but deliberate push offs complete with full arm extension should be called any time. It's not a legal basketball move and the ref was right there to see it.

    I posted this before but if that situation isn't worthy of calling it why call it on a starting player for their 5th foul on a much less obvious one at that....


    At least Pullins elbow remained bent and he never extended. That was just a flop move the ref bought.
     
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  15. ATL_Gator

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    Tough no call is complete BS. Just because you have the ball at the last shot shouldn't allow you to throw all rules out of the window. I get the refs not influencing the end of the game, but their crap influenced the whole game.

    Sorry, but end of game is not a reason to no call that. A foul in the 1st 10 seconds is a foul in the last 10 seconds. Do the job you were hired to do.
     
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  16. rtgator

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    Even the announcer Kenny Smith said he got away with a push-off!
     
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  17. g8rnc

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    Pullen exaggerated the response to the push to try to get the call. Right or wrong, in that situation they are less likely to blow the whistle. He should have just stayed tight to him and fought through the push. He’s too big a guy to let that little forearm knock him off balance.
     
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  19. Crusher

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    I have no idea how big you are, and I'm not nearly as big as Pullin, but I guarantee if I had you on the move and put my elbow in your chest as forcefully as Simpson did to Pullin, it would knock you off balance and backwards enough to get a shot off. This kind of move creates two types of assistance to the shooter: It creates backward momentum for the defender and helps stop the shooter's forward momentum allowing it to be easier to jump backward's or straight up for a shot.

    I saw nothing exaggerated by Pullin's movements. He was momentarily knocked off balance to the point he could not adequately defend the shot.
     
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  20. MCB51

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    Hope the same thing happens to them in their next game..see how they like it
     
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