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DOJ sues Apple, claims monopoly

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  1. channingcrowderhungry

    channingcrowderhungry Premium Member

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    I'm not sure viewing trust-busting as punishment frames it in the way it is intended. It's about protecting consumers and the market as a whole. Amazon can sell their items cheaper because they also control the means of distribution and sales. So they can manipulate the market against other products on their platform
     
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  2. VAg8r1

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    Ironically, Apple was on the other side of a similar antitrust lawsuit against Microsoft over 20 years ago although interestingly the DOJ is alleging the current practices of Apple are even more anti-competitive than those of Microsoft back then.
    Apple sued by DOJ over iPhone monopoly claims | TechCrunch
     
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  3. wgbgator

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  4. citygator

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    Meh. Doing something well isn’t a monopoly. Google search is just solid but feel free to use bing. Same with iPhone. As long as they don’t attack other start ups and competition for phones then how they run their AppStore seems fine to me.
     
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  5. archigator_96

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    Instead they brilliantly hitched their wagon to K-Mart. I gots ta have my ToughSkins.
     
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  6. CaptUSMCNole

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    Can you be more specific about the non-Apple smart watch issue that you talking about?

    I have a Garmin Forerunner 45 watch and have never had any issue with it syncing with the Garmin Connect app on my iPhone. I know lots of people that do not use the Apple Watch but still have smart watches and iPhones and have never heard of any issues.
     
  7. HeyItsMe

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    The smartphone market in general has been lacking in innovation for a while now. Truthfully, we are currently in peak smart phone, and small, incremental upgrades are going to be the new norm, which is why I now upgrade every 3 years to make all those small upgrades add up. Samsung likes to claim innovation, but then just copies Apple on everything they previously made fun of them for, and when they do come out with something new, it’s a buggy mess for a few years until they perfect it.
     
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  8. tilly

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    I have multiple macbooks and iPads, but i will take a Galaxy or Moto G over an iPhone all day.

    Same with my Galaxy watch. I like it better than Apple.

    Samsung and Motorola are actually at least trying cool new things.

    Creating a "dynamic island" to basically just hide your camera lens isnt great innovation.

    Macbooks are worth it.
    IPad is worth it. (Though Galaxy tabs are just as good imo)

    IPhone isnt really worth the money to me.

    Also, apple has ruined individuality.
    I dont want the exact same watch and phone as everyone else.
     
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  9. tilly

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    Or.... the persons fault who wants to be just like everyone else.
     
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  10. danmanne65

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    It was all there, they even had an early internet service, maybe prodigy? Upload the old sears catalog and they could have fought Amazon for dominance but they didn’t and went away. I suspect the same thing will happen to several ice car manufacturers.
     
  11. tilly

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    My Galaxy watch may sinc to an iphone, but it also a runs Android Wear software natively.

    Android phones have much more freedom than iPhones do irt cross ecosystem use. Though these days, most Google branded apps work fine on Apple devices.
     
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  12. tilly

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    I always thought the same of Kmart.

    Thy could have been Family Dollar/Dollar general.

    They went huge footprint in expensive real estate areas, when they should have gone small footprint in neighborhoods.
     
  13. wgbgator

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    I think this is basically everything now, the economy, politics, etc. we are just stuck in the interminable present
     
  14. G8trGr8t

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    You mean they want to compete in the prescription drug business and as a tech and delivery company they want to control their own control system? Why shouldn't they expand and create competition in sectors where they think they can compete?
     
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  15. ursidman

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    DOJ suing Apple?
    Posters want them to sue Amazon and Google too?

    Stop and consider what this might do to my portfolio and quit thinking about yourselves all the time.
     
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  16. enviroGator

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    I have never been a fan of Apple. Proud to be a droid.
     
  17. Gatorrick22

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    So... the government says they're too good to compete against? I find this suspect...

    The Department of Justice sued Apple

    on Thursday, saying its iPhone ecosystem is a monopoly that drove its “astronomical valuation” at the expense of consumers, developers and rival phone makers.

    The government has not ruled out breaking up one of the largest companies in the world, with a Justice Department official saying on a briefing call that structural relief was on the table if the U.S. were to win.


    The lawsuit claims Apple’s anti-competitive practices extend beyond the iPhone and Apple Watch businesses, citing Apple’s advertising, browser, FaceTime and news offerings.

    They have a product that's better than the rest... so sue them and break them up? I don't think that's the definition of a monopoly.

    Here's the general definition: A monopoly, as described by Irving Fisher, is a market with the "absence of competition", creating a situation where a specific person or enterprise is the only supplier of a particular thing. This contrasts with a monopsony which relates to a single entity's control of a market to purchase a good or service, and with oligopoly and duopoly which consists of a few sellers dominating a market