Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    30,782
    11,874
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    worse yet, could they be rigged to detonate when fired? hopefully the origination is being verified and the materials going through some sort of qa/qc process
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  2. demosthenes

    demosthenes Premium Member

    8,702
    1,051
    3,218
    Apr 3, 2007
    My company left Russia in 2022. Laid off our workers (provided a severance) and stopped selling into the country. Fortunately it wasn’t a major market for us.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Informative Informative x 2
  3. homer

    homer GC Hall of Fame

    2,585
    800
    2,078
    Nov 2, 2015
    Was your company charged an exit fee? Curious
     
  4. philnotfil

    philnotfil GC Hall of Fame

    17,557
    1,738
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    These 9 House Republicans voted against a resolution condemning the Russian abduction of Ukrainian children

    Since the February 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, thousands of children have been abducted and taken into Russia, and it's unclear what's happening to them.

    Russian officials have claimed that they're merely "saving" the children and that accusations of forcible abductions are a smear.




    On Tuesday, the House overwhelmingly passed a resolution to condemn Russia's abduction of Ukrainian children in the two years since the war began.

    Nine Republicans voted against the resolution.

    • Andy Biggs of Arizona

    • Eric Burlison of Missouri

    • Warren Davidson of Ohio

    • Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia

    • Clay Higgins of Louisiana

    • Thomas Massie of Kentucky

    • Matt Rosendale of Montana

    • Chip Roy of Texas

    • Tom Tiffany of Wisconsin
     
    • Informative Informative x 2
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  5. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

    15,084
    13,175
    1,853
    Apr 8, 2007
    We know who they work for and it's not us.
     
  6. demosthenes

    demosthenes Premium Member

    8,702
    1,051
    3,218
    Apr 3, 2007
    I honestly don’t remember as I didn’t lead point on shutting it down but I don’t think so. We didn’t have much money tied up in country (didn’t keep a lot in banks there and only leased real estate) and we were very quick to act once the sanctions hit.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  7. duggers_dad

    duggers_dad GC Hall of Fame

    15,614
    1,155
    2,088
    Jan 5, 2022
    Russia abducted nine Ukrainian children in the same way we abducted thousands of Vietnamese children.
     
  8. GatorJMDZ

    GatorJMDZ gatorjack VIP Member

    24,385
    2,502
    1,868
    Apr 3, 2007
    What kind of bottom feeder votes against a resolution condemning the abduction of children? That whole lot can and should rot in hell.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  9. uftaipan

    uftaipan GC Hall of Fame

    8,670
    2,011
    1,483
    May 31, 2007
    Fresno, CA
    Excellent. Nine Republicans are irrelevant as are their reasons for voting the way they did. The larger story is that the House overwhelmingly supported the resolution. I hope more such votes follow.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  10. uftaipan

    uftaipan GC Hall of Fame

    8,670
    2,011
    1,483
    May 31, 2007
    Fresno, CA
    Like I suggested, who cares? If 200 representatives vote a certain way, then it’s important to understand why, even if the measure passes. If only nine do, then it’s beneath comment.
     
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  11. GatorJMDZ

    GatorJMDZ gatorjack VIP Member

    24,385
    2,502
    1,868
    Apr 3, 2007
    I agree that the "why" doesn't matter, but I think it's important to out these people and have them held up to (near) universal condemnation. MTG is NOT getting a pass from me simply because she's being Marjorie. She can go to hell first and leave the lights on.

     
  12. uftaipan

    uftaipan GC Hall of Fame

    8,670
    2,011
    1,483
    May 31, 2007
    Fresno, CA
    I was not suggesting a pass for MTG. I’ve been clear myself on my professional, apolitical assessment of her character and performance. As I’ve previously stated, a serving member of the armed forces, such as myself, may not engage in openly contemptuous language toward members of Congress. So you will never see me write things like — strictly as an example — “MTG should be handed over to the Russian Army as a comfort woman for the duration of the war.”

    I was merely asserting the larger story is that overwhelming, bipartisan majority condemned Russian war atrocities in the form of kidnapping Ukrainian children and reeducating them as Russians. Why did those nine vote against it? No idea. Don’t really care. Some might be idiots. Some might be Russian agents. All are certainly placing party above country, which I find reprehensible. Some, more reasonably, might have a problem with the word “genocide” in there. I have a problem with that myself only because I think the word gets thrown around too loosely to the point that it has no meaning anymore. But my problem with the language does not override my support for the resolution overall.

    In fairness, I said the same thing about Tlaib (another mental peer of MTG, just on the other side of the aisle) when she refused to condemn Hamas for its ordered use of rape as a tool of war. Reprehensible. And I don’t care what her political justification is. An unprofessional officer (not myself, of course) might suggest she gets to spend the rest of the war in the loving hands of Hamas in one of their tunnels while MTG is enjoying her time with the Russians. But, again, I think the larger point was that the Congress, in an overwhelming and bipartisan way, condemned Hamas for its orders to rape as many women as possible during its attack on Israel.
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Funny Funny x 1
  13. chemgator

    chemgator GC Hall of Fame

    13,288
    1,834
    1,318
    Apr 3, 2007
    I suspect that some at least are coming from South Korea, which has a reason to try to keep it quiet (don't want Fat Bast@rd to think that S. Korea is defenseless).
     
  14. vegasfox

    vegasfox GC Hall of Fame

    1,228
    92
    88
    Feb 4, 2024
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  15. chemgator

    chemgator GC Hall of Fame

    13,288
    1,834
    1,318
    Apr 3, 2007
    A recap of U.S. - Russian naval incidents over the last 50 years: something we should get used to happening more often, thanks to the Cowards of Congress (Trump republicans). Once we help Russia's military succeed in Ukraine and rebuild itself to superpower status, we'll have a lot more of these incidents and accidents, and we'll have to pay more taxes to rebuild our military. Trump republicans love them taxes. (Either that, or they are just too stupid to understand that not helping Ukraine will lead to higher U.S. military spending in the future.)

    I don't remember hearing about any of these incidents, other than the U.S. ships hitting the cargo ship.

    A Soviet attack submarine crashed into a US aircraft carrier 40 years ago during the Cold War. It was a bad day for the sub.

     
  16. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

    15,084
    13,175
    1,853
    Apr 8, 2007
    Pootie pie lobbed missiles into Kyiv for the first time in a while. When does the house gop get off their ass and vote on that aid package for Ukraine?
     
  17. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

    30,782
    11,874
    3,693
    Aug 26, 2008
    Russians concerned that drones may strike potassium nitrate ships in port and blow up the whole port/city have stopped shipping until a different port outside of the city can accept the shipments required to make gunpowder.

    Guessing they must have got intel on a mission or stopped some drone boats

    Russia's quiet port move betrays fears of "devastating" drone attack
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2024
  18. vegasfox

    vegasfox GC Hall of Fame

    1,228
    92
    88
    Feb 4, 2024
    As I said from the beginning of the war, the longer the war goes on the more territory Ukraine will lose. Putin and Zelensky were getting close to signing l a ceasefire agreement as I reported on March 23, 2022 on my twitter. I predicted Biden would be opposed and I was right. The Biden administration wanted war

    Russia now has 4 oblasts under their control. People who think like chemgstor will cause Russia to capture Kyiv oblast and Odessa oblast and the 2 oblasts in-between. And things could get even worse.
     
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
  19. GatorJMDZ

    GatorJMDZ gatorjack VIP Member

    24,385
    2,502
    1,868
    Apr 3, 2007
    "I’d Like to Buy a Clue, Pat."
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  20. chemgator

    chemgator GC Hall of Fame

    13,288
    1,834
    1,318
    Apr 3, 2007
    Maybe the more the war continues, the more territory that Russia will lose. Russian partisans are invading Russia from Ukraine and causing a lot of trouble. One thing that has to keep Putin awake at night: if the regular army soldiers get tired of being ordered to fight Ukraine, there is another organization they can join to fight Russia and get rid of Putin. It will be interesting to see where this activity goes. Russia has had little success controlling these rebels, who are getting weapons and equipment from Ukraine. Putin cannot afford for these courageous and heroic rebels to become any more popular than they already are.

    Looks like Russia is getting a good dose of its own medicine.

    Russian fighters for Ukraine say cross-border raids will continue

     
    • Like Like x 1