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Fani Willis, accused of affair with Trump prosecutor, vowed to not date staff in 2020: ‘Certainly in

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  1. RealGatorFan

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    You all only read headlines from what I've read in this thread today. The judge went further. He pretty much called her Trump-lite. He said she has stained this trial with an "odor of mendacity". He also said if she fails to shut-up in public about the trial, he will slap her with a gag order, which is unheard of for a DA. This isn't over given her history. I fully expect the trial not to finish until after the election because she will do something yet again to cause the judge to bring her in. It's possible she may end up getting removed down the road. I'm pretty sure her boy toy isn't happy being removed from the case.
     
  2. WarDamnGator

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    Yeah, might work out better for the good guys in the end...
     
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  3. sierragator

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    He's only in jeopardy if he loses the election.
     
  4. Gatoragman

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    Is this an admission that the charges were made only for political purposes? Because these are state charges and if they have evidence of him breaking the law, being President wouldn't change that, and he can't pardon himself or change state law. Or am I missing something?
     
  5. gaterzfan

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    More scrutiny of Willis:

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    “Records from Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis' office could be made public if a court agrees to rule against Willis and the county in an open records lawsuit.

    On Wednesday, the conservative activist group Judicial Watch sued Willis and Fulton County, Georgia. The Georgia Open Records Act lawsuit alleges that the plaintiffs refused to hand over the district attorney's communications with the former January 6 Committee and special counsel Jack Smith.

    In the complaint, Judicial Watch said Willis denied its August request for documents because it "[did] not have the responsive records." Following a series of congressional letters and news reports that said members of Willis' team had traveled to Washington, D.C., to meet with lawmakers, Judicial Watch argued in its lawsuit that Willis' office had lied about not having the requested documents.”
     
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  6. higator85

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    He will end democracy and finish the job of ending the rule of law as we know it, if elected so this case will go away. SCOTUS will bend the knee.
     
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  7. VAg8r1

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    The issue wasn't whether or not Willis and/or Wade lied, it was whether there was an actual conflict of interest and Judge McAfee found that there wasn't evidence of an actual conflict of interest sufficient to disqualify Willis.

    By the way Trump lies every day many times a day. If he was prosecuted for every lie there would be hundreds if not thousands of cases pending against him. The only lies which have resulted in civil and may result in criminal liability for the Donald were his denial of the sexual assault on E. Jean Carroll, his fraudulent valuation of properties, his misrepresentation of hush money to Stormy Daniels and most significantly his blatant lie regarding the disposition of classified documents in his possession.
     
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  8. sierragator

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    Of course not. It only means that they are not going to try a sitting potus. After his term is over, it won't really matter but in theory they could try him in his mid 80's as an ex potus. Don't hold your breath. Above the law, just the way his followers want him.
     
  9. ursidman

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    Yep. Throw in a some more stalling tactics, delays, a change of lawyers, motions filed that have to be heard and other continuances and off he goes to his eternal reward without the accountability he so richly deserves.
     
  10. Gatoragman

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    As I stated, you just don't want to accept it, it was all political in nature!! If his law breaking on the state level was so egregious to warrant however many indictments she through at him, then the case should go on, President or not or after his term is up. But see, it was all about keeping him from winning!!! Had he not run again, these charges would have never happened. Whether he broke the law has zero do with why he was charged, it was all political!!!
     
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  11. VAg8r1

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    No it's an observation that our system of justice is flawed when a presidential candidate who wins election can make any federal criminal charges no matter how valid disappear by either pardoning himself if he has been convicted or directing his Attorney General to cease the prosecution of any cases pending against him. While he cannot make state charges disappear (noting that the issue has never been addressed) most likely any action against him will have to be stayed until he completes his term in office. Also as I previously stated multiple grand juries have found that there was probable cause to believe that Trump committed crimes. If the prosecutions are political logically he would want to go trial as quickly as possible so that he could be exonerated once and for all. Maybe it's just me a reasonable inference with respect to his use of delaying tactics in virtually every one of his criminal cases is that he knows that he is as guilty as hell and is hoping that an election victory can make the charges go away either directly in the case of the federal charges and through a 4-year delay regarding the Georgia state charges.

    Edit: If you think that the charges against Trump are strictly political you've really been drinking the MAGA Koolaid.
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  12. gatorchamps960608

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    You are moving up the ladder quickly of Too Hot posters who are always wrong. Of course, they are all Trump cult members.

    Trump asked the SOS of Georgia to essentially invent the number of votes he needed to win. It was both a crime and violation of his oath of office. Much like our most classified secrets he took home and stored in his bathroom, he should be put underneath a jail for doing these things.
     
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  13. higator85

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    How can the case go on with democracy and rule of law dead? It’s not going to be magically restored in the unlikely event that he decides not to run (SCOTUS will clear a path for him on a third term if he wishes) They have courts in Russia. Don’t see anyone pursuing charges against Putin.
     
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  14. Gatoragman

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    Now it's the system!!!
    No, not the system, the unethical action of the DA is what has caused this case to linger and not go to court. I know, sometimes love is just so powerful, she couldn't deny her love for Wade, but had no problem denying and lying about the relationship. Had she been forthcoming about the relationship, the trial would probably be underway right now and the Trump would be getting prosecuted for his egregious crimes he committed.
     
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  15. Gatoragman

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    No where on the call did, he say invent or make false votes appear!!! He said find me these votes, that should have been followed with, if they are there. And just as you all can assume and be sure what exactly Trump really meant, I am just as sure that is what he meant.
     
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  16. VAg8r1

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    I'm not defending Willis and I think she is indeed damaged. That being said as far the RICO case against Trump and his codefendants is concerned the standard for removal of a DA is an actual conflict of interest not just unethical behavior and the attorneys representing Donald and friends failed to establish there is one. The fact that Willis was properly admonished by the court for unethical behavior doesn't give Trump and his buds a free pass.
     
  17. mikemcd810

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    So you think it's the Trump team that wants to have this over and done with before the election and the DA is purposefully causing delays to drag this out? Because in all of his trials his legal team is pulling out every trick in the book to try and delay the trials until after the election.
     
  18. GatorNorth

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    McAfees’s full decision:

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    Basically hits Wade and Willis pretty hard for their horrendous personal judgement among other things, but fails to find a manner in which the defendants were impaired by their relationship.

    Also very clearly says there are other forums more appropriate to continue this-like the Georgia bar, etc.
     
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  19. sierragator

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    Bullshit. The evidence is there, a grand jury issued indictments. You just don't want a jury to see the evidence or hear testimony, you want to skip ahead to an acquittal so your orange god can remain above the law.
     
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  20. Gatoragman

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    Didn't say that, it absolutely is a defense tactic. And I don't believe in any of my post since any of the indictments came out, did I say Trump was innocent or guilty. All I have ever said is that most all these charges are of a political nature and had he not run again they wouldn't have been filed against him.
    The NY real estate stuff happens all the time and rarely gets prosecuted. The files he had, from what we know, were similar in nature to what Biden had, except for the obstruction piece of the classified docs claims.
    Where I think everyone on the left, that is trying to bring him down missed the boat, was they threw everything at the wall to see what would stick. By doing this it makes, what may have been legitimate claims of wrongdoing, all fall into the political witch hunt category.
    If Smith would have limited his indictments to obstruction and what he may be able to prove there, it would have not been viewed by so many people as a witch hunt.
    To me, when you break out obscure, hardly ever used laws to go after someone, and then lump in legitimate often used laws to go after someone it kind of weaken the overall view of the case. Hell 91 indictments and 6 have already been throwed out!
    If he gets like most of classified docs case, the appeal for the real estate stuff gets overturned, he ends up facing 3-5 indictments, he and many of his followers will not care!
    If he was charged with the handful of indictments, they could prove and have a hard time overturning, the perception the left wants of who he is would have been easily accepted by enough people to probably keep him from being elected! But with all the left has done at this point it causes many to view it as a witch hunt no matter the veracity of some of the charges.
    Many here will disagree with me, but this is what I hear regularly from folks that probably wouldn't have voted for him. They weren't going to vote for Biden, they would have just stayed home.