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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gatormonk, Mar 1, 2024.

  1. l_boy

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    That’s the joke.
     
  2. gator_lawyer

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    My grandfather was also Jewish.
    Don't know. Never asked him.
    The reason was that he got to know them through hobbies or other means (caregivers, neighbors, worked for him, etc.). And once he knew them, he saw them for who they were. But with other Black people, he believed all the worst stereotypes (criminals, rotten culture, thugs, welfare queens, etc.). Instead of confronting those bigoted beliefs and realizing he was wrong, he decided to believe that while most Black people were bad, he just happened to get to know the "good ones."

    I loved my grandfather. He was a good man. We were very close. But he was a racist. My mother (his daughter) shares the same opinion. And she loved him dearly too.
     
  3. surfn1080

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    Prediction: telling people who felt they were in the wrong body to live whatever life they wanted as long as it doesn’t affect others won’t make progressives happy.

    Oh wait…
     
  4. cron78

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    Good post. Appreciate your candor and reasonableness. And glad you didn’t follow in your family footsteps with respect to this issue but still love and appreciate them. One bad apple don’t spoil the whole bunch, and one bad trait don’t necessarily spoil the whole person. We all have our flaws.
     
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  5. slayerxing

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    someone clearly hasn’t read the thread where we actually talked about how dei at Florida did nothing of substance. All they did by closing it was save some money and avoid angering desantis. The way they did it also pissed off a bunch of students and faculty but apparently we’re not supposed to care about them.
     
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  6. gatormonk

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    What changed?
     
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  7. citygator

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    I feel like I shouldn’t have to point out how utterly stupid your post is but it feels necessary.
     
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  8. surfn1080

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    Another insightful post by you. The contributions you make to topics here is second to none.

    Did you even listen to the clip from 2013?
     
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  9. gatormonk

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    Lots of feels in that post.
     
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  10. gator_lawyer

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    Do you think Don Lemon spoke for all Black people? Because his comments were actually quite controversial at the time. (Some Black people even called him an "Uncle Tom.") There goes your narrative.
    Commentary: Don Lemon's Sagging Pants Problem
    CNN's Don Lemon Under Fire After He Says Blacks Shouldn't Wear Baggy Pants, Use N-Word, Litter
    WHY DON LEMON IS WRONG ABOUT SINGLE MOMS
    Don Lemon’s bootstrap lecture disguised as ‘tough love’
    “So please, black folks” | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson
     
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  11. citygator

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    Charlotte
    Youre referencing that Don Lemon having advice for the black community in a 2013 segment and didn’t mention racism is two monumentally unconnected topics to pull together then post. An absolutely absurd post.
     
  12. citygator

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    Maybe you can tell me how a segment in 2013 where Don Lemon is providing his thoughts on issues in the black community has anything to do with racism. As if 2013 was devoid of racial strife or today no one knows that the issues exist in society. Moronic. Sorry to trigger you with harsh words on your buddy’s post.
     
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  13. gator_lawyer

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    Worth noting that the context in which this arose was the period following the George Zimmerman not guilty verdict after he murdered Trayvon Martin.
     
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  14. gatormonk

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    If you don't think they're related then you don't get it. But thanks for your input.
     
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  15. citygator

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    The fact you couldn’t explain it tells me what I already knew.
     
  16. gatormonk

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    I could easily explain it but with you it wouldn't matter.
     
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  17. AgingGator

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    I believe it is quite obvious that Lemon wasn’t speaking either to or for all black people. He was not speaking to , and most likely for those that do not do the things he listed, as they already know the validity of his message. He WAS however, speaking to the ones that do the things that he listed. It is overwhelmingly likely that those that found his comments controversial are the ones who DO do those things and the race mongers who don’t have the neither the balls or honesty to say the same things.

    Telling young men to pull up their pants and go to school are not controversial to any rational human being. The only ones who found it controversial were those that don’t care to hear the message and look at themselves in the mirror.

    If you were mentoring a young 16 year old boy of any race that was wearing his pants like that and not applying himself in school would you tell him that he was doing just fine and to keep up the good work, or would you tell him to listen to Don Lemon’s advice?
     
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  18. gator_lawyer

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    You've entirely missed the point. I recommend reading, at minimum, the first link I posted before casting aspersions. It's the BET editorial that Keith Boykin wrote.
     
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  19. AgingGator

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    I have cast no aspersions.

    I would ask Keith Boykin the same question I asked you. That was a slanted article written by an apologist for bad behavior. Pulling one’s pants up and finishing school are no guarantees of success. But not doing so is a virtual guarantee of a very rough adulthood. No one can control everything and guarantee success. But everyone is capable of doing everything they can to put themselves into position to succeed. The record for people who do put themselves into position to succeed is pretty darn good. To minimize this or to make excuses, as Mr. Boykin does in his article does no one any favors and virtually assures that future generations have large numbers of people who do not succeed.

    Now, please answer my question as to how you would handle this in a mentoring situation.
     
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  20. gator_lawyer

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    Your question remains irrelevant. Boykin's editorial more than explained why. You can continue to demand we all ignore the barriers that exist for only certain people in our society (through no fault of their own), but we're free to ignore your demands.

    P.S. Good luck convincing plumbers that one has to pull their pants up to be successful. :emoji_joy: