IMPORTANT State of the Union

I'm not allowed to call the people who openly state that their mission is to "kill the Jews," Nazis? Because that is Hamas.

 

I reported my own post

"I called a moron a moron. I am self reporting the truth"

That was my line in report post. Soldier. Meal team six. LOL.

November is gonna hurt.

 

Didn't care... or didn't believe them?

 

Yeah, well. I'd wager at this rate you'll be kicked off the forum by then.

 

I hear you and I’m agreeing. I am incapable of breaking it down in the manner your mind is able to do so, particularly when it comes to Trump.

There has been so much specific action by him, on so many occasions, that I am unable to see him rise to a standard of conduct that I would expect for any human, much less the President of the United States. In my mind (and I’m not suggesting I am correct about this), people get multiple opportunities to show that their errors were mistakes, until there comes a pattern where the errors are the essence of character. Trump hit that threshold for me around 2019-ish, and thereafter, he devolved to depths I could never imagine.

 

Believing is the wrong criteria. I don’t believe he cares about truth. He cares only about narrative, and his megalomania demands he never surrender to facts that run contrary to his narrative.

 

1) The fake elector scheme is inexcusable and unconstitutional. It's a good thing our institutions and Pence held the line. That issue, however, is generally inconsequential to this election. Trump is not campaigning as President and is termed out even if he wins. It is relevant as far as character, but I find most character complaints about Trump to be opportunistic, not rooted in principle. People voted in 2020 and will probably vote in 2024 based on who is better for them, their family, and America. Not which candidate is the most mature or the least egotistical.

2) Trump's phone call to Georgia can be chalked up to him trying to ensure every legal vote is counted to prevent the election from being fraudulently decided.

3) Again, if this was a coup (it wasn't), this was probably the weakest coup in world history from a candidate who received more votes than any candidate in US history prior to 2020, who was the sitting President in the strongest country the world has ever seen. If Trump actually wanted a coup, there would have been more than one person (who was a protester) who directly died from the riots on January 6th, 2021. Another 5-6 died from secondary health related causes, but only one was actually killed, and that one was a protester.

 

1. You don't think anybody on his team agreed with him? As in not a single person?
2. You don't think he's egotistical enough to reject the facts as provided by his team because he's just "too popular and too great?"

 

Was Hitler a Nazi?

 

I certainly think he’s egotistical enough to reject things, but the memos show he didn’t reject the facts, he plotted around them anyway. As I said a few posts above, I think he cares only about narrative and nothing about facts.

 

"Believing" provides an entirely different context to Trump's actions immediately following the 2020 election.

I agree in practice it only matters so much. Kind of like "the road to Hell was paved with good intentions." But it matters a whole lot in contextualizing his actions.

You can't make sense of Trump's actions through the lens of a Biden supporter or liberal. You have to put yourself in Trump's shoes and try thinking like he does.

 

What proof is there exactly that he didn't reject the facts?

 

He is trying to assert that because I said Israel needs to halt their civilian killing offensive....and that I said a 2006 election does not make Hamas truly representative of the current population of Gaza, that.....

....I am therefore "shilling for Nazis."

It's a pretty pathetic justification for shilling for an un-American traitor.

But here we are.

 

I find it kind of interesting that a brand new poster immediately rushed to your defense considering just how new you are.

 

There are probably tons of lurkers who like to laugh at a poster who tries to justify the most un-American crime we've probably seen an American commit in modern history; enacting a conspiracy to deny the franchise of 10s of millions by trying to overturn an election by coercing state election officials, establishing fake slates of electors, encouraging violent attacks on police and our govt, and gleefully watching while those attacks took place.

But that's what you do, so you just do you.

 

Now do Hamas.

 

Again?

"...Israel needs to halt their civilian killing offensive....and a 2006 election does not make Hamas truly representative of the current population of Gaza."

That work for ya, Mr. Supporter of un-American Election Fraud?

 

That is a very interesting clip.

For the record, I think Bannon is a POS.

But I think that may be Bannon's mentality, not Trump's. I think it's far more likely than not, Trump genuinely believes he won to this day.

Bannon is a cynical machiavellian piece of garbage. He needs to stay the Hell away from all of politics in my opinion, including the Trump campaign.

 

Every expert told Trump there was hardly any fraud and he lost while Biden won. To date, there's been zero evidence of wide scale fraud. Yet today, Trump is still claiming he won the 2020 election?

Does it really matter what Trump believes? No. What does matter is what his foolish followers believe, and they hang on Trump's every word. And that's dangerous. Trump is 100% lying to his followers about the 2020 election, and they believe him.

At some point, the rational person would give up the ghost and stop chasing a 2020 victory. But not Trump. His megalomaniac and self absorbed mind can't handle the truth. And the only thing more dangerous than Trump are the fools that follow him. They already believe one lie. No reason they won't believe all of the Trump lies.