well sir. Not sure about hilarious but i do find the point rather compelling that in order for your version to be accurate you have to believe that NY, with one of the largest in terms or size of force and budget of any police force in the world. The first subway was built in 1904 and somehow in the midst of all the crime decreasing around them that they just missed the ‘local hotspot’ in such a grand fashion and surprise that that were unable to reposition forces away from areas that crime had allegedly decreased to subway hotpots and as a result needed to call In the national guard? Also totally unrelated but San Fran has similarly decreasing crime but the residents of one of if not the most progressive city in terms of policy and constituents has voted in much tougher policing to stop the growth of the ‘decreasing’ crime. Of course the other option is maybe crime has indeed gotten worse and as a result the Gov called in the NG and the residents of San Fran are growing sick of their own policies and asked for more policing. No question, Your option is more likely.
The situations are so much more nuanced than your trite take on them if you’re actually intellectually curious and not simply being a belligerent troll. There’s a weird dynamic between MTA and NYPD but the NYC mayor already dispatched a lot of officers right before the governor put in additional state troopers and national guard. Crime is up on the subway as shown by the very same statistics that show crime down elsewhere, and the mayor has redirected the NYPD to the hotspot acknowledging it’s a problem but you want to pick and choose what to believe. How f-in convenient. I go to NYC multiple times a year for work (in fact I’m typing this in an airport on a layover after making my third trip there this calendar year) and have never felt unsafe anywhere in the city. I haven’t ridden the subway yet this year but if I do I’ll be sure to report back. As for SF, the NG Sheriff CHP and SFPD created a joint task force to target fentanyl and its related drug operations, not for general crime. The bill that passed gives police modern tools and streamlines policing and that’s somehow a problem? Another bill on the ballot to increase the number of officers failed (was put on the ballot by the mayor’s opponent) which undermines your argument that the citizens feel unsafe.
The weirdest dynamic of all is deploying the national guard to do what amounts to Disney/sports security screening (checkpoints/bag check) in the subway. Why pay for hired security screening when you can call up the guard I guess. Added bonus of guys in camo with big guns too I suppose.
Yeah, a bit of overkill. Honestly, I think it was easiest “tool” the governor could bring to bear. Also brought in state troopers but they’re limited in numbers.
Nothing odd at all. You’re sold on some questionable statistics and claim that crime has been declining for years. I’m just saying that you should claim victory and go back to the days when people left the keys in their car and didn’t lock everything up and turn on their security systems. Just asking you to put your money where your mouth is.
"Questionable statistics" is not a euphemism for not liking the results. Crime has been declining for decades. You would literally have to throw out every measurement of crime to not realize that. The results get more variable for specific crimes and in specific areas, but, overall, crime is way down from the early 90s. I told you that I regularly don't lock my door and don't even have a security system. You then wanted me to go to bed early for some reason. Very odd. Regardless, there is a reason that a lot of millennials moved to cities that terrified their parents. It is because crime is down but the parents don't realize it.
I am not saying we should discount public perception by any means, but I do think the level of fear today is partly related to the amount of coverage. My mom watches Fox News and is increasingly worried about violent crime rates today. I reminded her what things were like in the 80s and early 90s. I reminded her about when a couple we knew were murdered, about fights at schools, when someone tried to break into our house, and when some creepy guys followed her from a gas station to have had the clerk she knew send the cops after them. For whatever reason, she has a much rosier view of the good ole days than I do.
Regardless, no need for concern for my statement last night. No odd intent, no attempt to intimidate.
You summarily discarded basically every meaningful statistic on crime in the country going back decades because you don’t like the results. There’s nothing more antithetical to intellectually discourse than an inability to engage in self reflection, modifying one’s position when encountering new information or encountering information that challenges your beliefs.
Let me clarify things for you: I am always leery of data and statistics provided by governments and politicians. They regularly pee on our backs and try to tell us it’s raining. I’ve been in contracting with the USG for over 40 years. While I have dealt with hundreds, if not thousands of top notch uniformed and civilian people along the way I can tell you with certainty that the largest lapses in ethics that I have observed have been from the government civilian side, not the contractor side. You can call me jaded if you want, personal experience has made me that way.
I was just there for our board meeting. I can report Manhattan subway is fine. I wonder if they had a terrorist threat or something?
Police Departments report the statistics compiled by the FBI, basically you are saying the cops are lying or have an agenda. Their budgets seem pretty immune to whatever they report, so it cant be that if they are.
NYC crime is remarkably low The Democratic candidate for mayor lost 5 straight elections from 1993 to 2009. Giuliani and Bloomberg had impressive success in lowering crime. When Democrat De Blasio took over in 2014 the culture had changed so dramatically that he felt compelled to hire Bill Bratton , for police comissioner.. Bratton was Giuliano's pick for the same job in 1994. He served until 2016. Crime rose again after George Floyd died and police backed away from tough enforcement. . NYC still has a low crime rate. Homicides are about 1/5 of what you see in Cook county, Illinois. Cook county is 24% black, NYC is 23% black (roughly).
