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Trump's Troubles

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Feb 13, 2021.

  1. mrhansduck

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    My recollection is that judgments resulting from fraud are typically not dischargeable in bankruptcy. Not sure about judgments for sexual abuse/rape.
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    so they would be granted right to title by forfeiture??? of properties he owns or interests in holding companies if he doesn't post the bond? is that or something analogous to it what they have asked for in anticipation of his failure to post the bond?
     
  3. G8trGr8t

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    not sure if to put it here but the FBI is looking for an Iranian trying to hire hitmen to kill former Trump officials related to the hit and the Quds General

    The FBI Is Searching for an Alleged Iranian Assassin Reportedly Targeting Trump-Era Officials (msn.com)

    The FBI is on a manhunt for an Iranian intelligence officer allegedly overseeing a plot to assassinate current and former federal government officials as revenge for the Trump administration's 2020 airstrike killing of an Iranian military official.

    Last Friday, the agency's Miami field office issued an alert that Majid Dastjani Farahani "is wanted for questioning in connection with the recruitment of individuals for various operations in the United States." Those operations, the alert adds, include the assassinations of "current and former United States Government officials as revenge for the killing of IRGC-QF Commander Qasem Soleimani."
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    According to the FBI alert, Farahani is 41 years old, has brown and gray hair, brown eyes, and speaks Farsi, English, Spanish and French. He also "has ties to or may visit Iran and Venezuela," the agency adds.

    The outlet Semafor reports that Farahani's plot specifically focuses on Trump-era officials, including former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Brian Hook, who worked as Trump’s special envoy for Iran. Citing unnamed U.S. officials, Semafor reports that both men are being provided with around-the-clock security due to the nature of the threat.
     
  4. mrhansduck

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    In my past experience in Florida, when a party got a civil judgment and didn't or couldn't stay the collection efforts, the judgment creditor would typically require the judgment debtor to fill out a Fact Information Sheet and perhaps be deposed in order to assist in their collection efforts. To take someone's money or property would generally require separate or supplemental proceedings to obtain writs of garnishment or to foreclose on real property. There are all sorts of ways people try to avoid collections that I'm sure would not surprise you.
     
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  5. G8trGr8t

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    will Trump play that hide the pee game or do you think he will post the bond?

    does the answer to that question tell us anything about his liquid assets?

    can he play that same game with the NY judgement if the appeals court upholds the judgement?
     
  6. mrhansduck

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    I honestly have no idea. His assets may be well known enough that people have a sense of whether he's going to be easy or difficult to collect against. If his properties are mortgaged, for example, that plays a role since the mortgagee would likely have priority. If he has assets such as interest in limited liability companies which have multiple owners, that can matter since at least some jurisdictions don't want to force other members to become business partners with a judgment creditor coming into the picture. Many people have trusts or own things with their spouse as part of their asset protection plan. Florida has always been considered friendly to judgment debtors, and there are people who are very good at making it hard to ever collect money. How much has Alex Jones paid out, for example? I suspect Trump probably has some tricks up his sleeve, but it's entirely speculation on my part.
     
  7. apkgator

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    Plenty of "more in the middle type no older than 70" were running in the Republican primaries....but the party is still run by Trump.
    It's a little more understandable on the other side where you do have an incumbent and no real viable option emrerged
     
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  8. chemgator

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    Snopes has something to say about the Biden camp's irresponsible allegations that U.S. job growth when Trump was president was "the worst since the Great Depression".

    After researching the issue, Snopes says: "True". Ouch!

    What kind of dimwits are voting for a president with the worst record in modern history for creating jobs? Obviously, Covid was more than partly responsible for the job losses, but Trump did not help things with his idiotic tariff wars with China.

    Fact Check: When Trump Was in Office, US Job Growth Was Worst Since Great Depression. Let's Look at the Facts

     
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  9. chemgator

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    This could be a problem for Trump:

    Taylor Swift will be running as a third party candidate on the Taylor Swift ticket. She has urged her followers to vote in this year's presidential election, without telling the young zombies whom to vote for. Obviously, they will be voting for their idol, Taylor Swift. Voting for the Taylor Swift ticket will be a lot cheaper than buying a Taylor Swift ticket, so the Swifties will be all over this. Tragically, Taylor Swift is ineligible to run for President, as she will not turn 35 until mid-December of this year. But she is eligible to be president when the term starts in January of next year. The Supreme Court is going to issue an opinion on this conundrum with a song and dance video to be played at the Taylor Swift Party Convention and After-Party. Donald Trump has accused her of being an anti-hero; Swift told him to "shake it off". Joe Biden just wants to smell her hair; Swift told him it's going to be a "cruel summer", so he should buy a ticket and wait in line like everyone else.

    Taylor Swift urges voters to the polls ahead of Super Tuesday

    You people wanted someone younger. T.S. is barely legal in terms of presidential duty. And she has no political baggage.
     
  10. G8trGr8t

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    Charlotte
    Just read that Haley will be accusing Trump of stealing the primary election. She will call for her supporters to storm Marolago and hang him. Biden considering a pardon for her.
     
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    The story of his whole life. Hoping to find someone along the way he can bribe to get a change.
     
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  14. sierragator

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    They're all rigged and corrupt except the ones who rule in his favor.
     
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  15. ajoseph

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    He might be asking for a new trial in order to preserve an argument for appeal.
     
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  16. ajoseph

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    You don’t need to initiate supplemental proceedings to garnish funds, fwiw. You just need the judgment (not otherwise stayed on appeal)
     
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  17. mrhansduck

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    Then I stand corrected. I couldn't recall when supplemental proceedings are required and when they're not, so I tried to phrase it very broadly. I worked to collect on a few judgments over the years and defended some efforts as well as did a little asset protection work - though none of that was really in my wheelhouse. I feel like I saw some cases where the judgment creditor filed a new lawsuit as opposed to proceeding with enforcement and collections in the same case number, but I could be mistaken or maybe they did it that way when they didn't have to or weren't supposed to.

    As a side note, I saw that Florida passed the "Judgment Lien Improvement Act" last year but haven't read up on it and don't know how significant the changes might be.

    Florida’s New “Judgment Lien Improvement Act” — Judgment Defendants Beware Because Your Creditors May be Able to Get It Although They Can’t See It!

    Florida lawyers often hear the cry from their clients that Florida is a “debtor’s haven” because of the generous homestead exemption provided by the Florida Constitution,[1] the various personal property exemptions available under statute,[2] and the “tenancy by the entireties” immunity protection afforded to married couples that own property jointly but the creditor holds a judgment against only one spouse.[3] This column, however, is not about protections from creditors’ claims. Rather, the holders of Florida money judgments and the attorneys they hire now have another arrow in their collection quivers thanks to the new Judgment Lien Improvement Act,[4] which took effect on July 1, 2023. However, as is the case with creditor’s rights generally, there are some limitations, which are discussed throughout this article.

    In broad terms, the act first expands the reach of a Florida judgment lien against a defendant’s ownership of certain intangible personal property rights. Specifically, the act amends certain provisions of F.S. Ch. 55, to make “accounts”[5] and “payment intangibles”[6] and “the proceeds thereof,”[7] owing by a third party legally called an “account debtor,”[8] subject to the lien of a judgment lien certificate. Thanks to the act, a judgment creditor, subject to certain requirements, may be able to enforce its judgment against assets a judgment debtor owns but that do not exist in a physical sense. The act applies alike to defendants that are natural persons and business entities. At the same time, the act makes it clear that the rights of pre-existing lienholders are not adversely impacted.

    A second focus of the act provides improved methods by which a judgment creditor can ensure its judicial lien is recognized by the State of Florida and effective against its judgment debtor’s title to a motor vehicle or vessel. To do this, the act adds a new subsection (b) to F.S. §56.29(6) and makes conforming changes to Ch. 319 regarding the process for recognizing judgment liens against titled vehicles and vessels.

    The impetus behind the act was the Business Law Section of The Florida Bar. The section created a task force or subcommittee to study and evaluate issues pertaining to whether a right to receive payment should be subject to attachment by a judgment lien creditor and the practical roadblocks when a judgment creditor attempts to levy upon a non-exempt vehicle or boat because of certificate of title protocols. Several members of the section’s subcommittee, including me, contributed drafting suggestions, but University of Florida Levin College of Law Prof. Emeritus Jeff Davis was the primary author of the act.[9] The support of Sen. Darryl Rouson and Rep. Christopher Benjamin, the act’s lead sponsors in the Senate and House, respectively, was critical to the concept becoming a Florida law.
     
  18. ajoseph

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    We use supplemental proceedings when we seek to enforce the judgment against non-parties. The easiest example is to recover money based on fraudulent transfers. Judgment collections can be complicated and complex, for sure.
     
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    Yup, and I think it was mostly the indictments and more or less making a martyr out of Trump that caused it. DeSantis was polling very well until the indictments.

    DeSantis after that ran a terrible campaign.
     
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  20. G8trGr8t

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    Liz Cheney is really beginning to grow on me. Appreciate someone with that much conviction to what is right. If the evidenc eput together for the J6 group were presented in a court of law, he would be convicted, and she knows it. Not actively trying to stop someone like that from holding office is akin to helping it if youa rein a position to do so. Thankfully, she, and some others like her, are in a position to have a voice for the group fka as the republican party.

    Donald Trump Faces New Republican Threat (msn.com)

    Liz Cheney, the former Republican Wyoming congresswoman and vocal critic of Donald Trump, has launched a new political action committee (PAC) which aims to stop the former president re-entering the White House.

    Cheney, one of two Republicans who were part of the House Select Committee investigating the January 6 attack, announced The Great Task PAC on Wednesday while urging others to "join me in the fight for our nation's freedom."
     
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