Dartmouth men's basketball players vote to form a union

Funny how folks can be such proponents of freedom, until they realize it means that others will have it too.

 

Trouble with a capital T. This will be interesting.

 

I'm interesting in the exact wording of the ruling: “Because Dartmouth has the right to control the work performed by the Dartmouth men’s basketball team, and the players perform that work in exchange for compensation, I find that the petitioned-for basketball players are employees within the meaning of the [National Labor Relations] Act.”

What I'm wondering is what compensation does a Dartmouth B'ball player receive? They don't get athletic scholarships in the Ivy league.

 

I believe they are not being compensated, that's the point.

 

Odd, because that isn't what the sentence says. It says the opposite. My question stands: what is their compensation? I have uncompensated folks at my work that perform some functions here....we call them volunteers. From my perspective being on the Basketball team at Dartmouth is not compulsory, but voluntary.

 

My guess is it won't matter as the Dartmouth basketball team will probably no longer exist.

 

Yank all the scholarships and get 12 new nerds

 

And their BB players a called student athletes.

 

I do not know, maybe they are being compensated with something other then money. I can't find anything online if the receive anything for playing on the team.
This article doesn't mention compensation but does show how much control the school has over the players. See the paragraphs on the student handbook.
NLRB regional director: Dartmouth men's basketball players are employees of college

 

They don’t give out athletic scholarships.

 

if they were worthy of compesation, they would have signed elsewhere that pays

 

When you are 5 & 21 and last in the Ivy League, you are pretty much at the bottom of the athletic barrel.....so who cares?

 

They probably aren’t profitable. They could get 52% of zero but I have a suspicion that this isn’t about Dartmouth. This will be applied to real teams?

 

So they aren’t obligated to play bad basketball for free? You don’t say.

 

They aren’t obligated to play basketball at all.

 

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

 

Thanks...that was what I was wondering. I have heard that virtually every Ivy league student is on some form of academic scholarship, but there are no athletic scholarships.....I can't imagine being able to pay to go to an Ivy league school just so you can play Basketball. Anyone that can afford that does not really need the pittance that a minimum wage job would provide. Would the Basketball players get tossed out of the school if they decided not to play, I doubt it.

Its interesting that she is ruling that certain items that the IRS does not consider "compensation" for regular employees is compensation. Things like Lodging, meals, and job equipment and apparel are considered reimbursable Employment expenses (even for an independent contractor), not compensation. Non-uniform apparel, tickets that aren't available to regular students, and non-insurance medical care would seem to fall into the compensation category.

 

Something doesn't make sense here. Maybe Dartmouth shouldn't have a basketball team at all. I saw an interview where a player said they had to pay for their medical out of their own pocket for injuries sustained while playing for the team. If true, that's BS. There has to be something in it for the players. I know there's no scholarships there but there has to be something.

 

I just don't know the whole mechanism of the athletes being there. Were they recruited athletes? Were they only granted admission because they were identified by the Basketball coach as someone they wanted on the team? I don't really know how the Ivy's work as far as their athletics, but I can sure see them giving up intercollegiate sports entirely and go to the club team sports only if this ruling somehow survives (I speculate that it will not).