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Migrant backlog to hit 8 million under Biden by October, data reveal

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by studegator, Mar 4, 2024.

  1. AzCatFan

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    Thank you for agreeing that walls don't work. Israel had a lot more reasons for their wall to work. It fell in minutes and stopped nothing. What makes anyone think a wall over 4X longer covering much more difficult terrain would be any more successful?

    And why do avoid answering any of my questions? Avoidance issues?
     
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  2. citygator

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    Also, the bill doesn’t do that. Maybe read it instead of relying on twitter. 5,000 is a number that establishes when emergency action is authorized. It’s like saying if it rains 6 inches an hour for two days it’s an emergency. That does not itself actually allow rain. You get that right?

    Here is the only mentioning of 5,000 in the bill followed by the part just before it that tells you what 5,000 means.
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    Part just before it.

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  3. gator95

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    Oh, so that is IF they feel like enforcing it. You seem to have faith in govt than I do. Not a surprise. You keep thinking that Biden needed this bill to do something about the border. The rest of us will be in the real world.
     
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  4. gator95

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    Too easy. Your comparison is so funny it's why pretty much zero posters agree with you. You let me know when you see illegal immigrants rolling up to the border with a bulldozer and then I'll agree the wall won't stop them LOL. Thanks for the laughs...
     
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  5. citygator

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  6. gator95

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    Thanks for continuing to be hyper-partisan. Wouldn't expect anything less from you. And quite possibly the funniest thing I've read in days is you saying you aren't far left LOL. Sure...
     
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  7. AzCatFan

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    No need. The immigrants just want to enter. Why use a bulldozer when a cheap ladder or cutting tool does the trick just fine. 11 holes a day in Trump's wall and that doesn't count how many ladders used to climb it.

    So thanks again for agreeing walls don't work. And still avoiding answering my simple questions? We all know why.
     
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  8. gator95

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    What goalpost? 5K of people per day is almost 2 million per day plus all the illegals that don't get caught. So if 4,800 people come across a day(1.75Million) nothing happens LOL. Great plan! Brilliant. Just because parts of the bill were good doesn't mean it was a good bill. Back to your blaming of R's.
     
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  9. citygator

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    I used language from the GOP’s last bill to demonstrate my point. I posted the actual law you claimed allows 5,000 in so you could see it. You ignored it all and responded by typing lol and calling me hyper partisan. You might want to look in the mirror.
     
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  10. citygator

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    If under 5,000 the whole bill outlines the normal procedures that handle, which are significantly more stringent than what is in place. That section was put in at the urging of the republicans who wanted to have escalating powers on surges. It doesnt undo the whole bill. An honest evaluation by you would determine you are mistaken. Take the loss like an adult.
     
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  11. gator95

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    Anyone here in the US could live with 4,000 illegals getting into the US per year illegally if that is your contention. Do you realize how dumb you sound? If we build a wall that covers the southern border and you told me 11 people crossed per day then I'd call that a resounding success compared to the 10 million that have crossed in Biden's term. I know math is tough for you but 4,000 is a little less than 10 million. If we do that for 4 years that's about 16k illegal crossing which is only about 625 times less than what was done so far in the Biden Presidency. I'll go with the lower number thanks. Appreciate your help in this.
     
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  12. gator95

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    Oh, am I hyper middle lol? The point is the bill allows close to 2million people per year to come into the country.
     
  13. citygator

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    It does not. It specifies specifically the criteria required to enter the US on asylum which is more requiring than today and it sets infrastructure to handle in weeks not years. There is no 5,000 a day get out of jail free card. All it does is provide the president with additional power to handle people so they don’t overwhelm the process it set up.

    Take the loss man. You are looking silly.
     
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  14. gator95

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    All it does is put a cap on the numbers. The number is too high. Additional power for the President? He already has the power. Just do it. Thanks for confirming your far left biases. Too easy to point out. Keep trying to convince me you aren't far left LOL.
     
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    Show me where it says people under 5,000 a day get in free? I’ll link the text and tell you what page it starts on. It does not say that. You were told that by people who didn’t think you would put in the effort to find out if they were lying to you. It starts on page 205. And if you want to see the new asylum guidelines it’s on page 201/202.

    https://www.appropriations.senate.g..._national_security_supplemental_bill_text.pdf
     
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  16. gator95

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    What part is hard to understand? They will take up to 5,000 a day before imposing any restrictions. Might want to take your own advice and maybe try to read that again. Oh, and are you still trying to convince yourself that you aren't far left LOL?

    Oh, and it gives discretion as to IF they want to impose restrictions.


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  17. citygator

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    You legitimately can’t read.
     
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    Biden’s handling of the border crisis has been a disaster, including his recent PR visit to Brownsville, TX last week where he looked like he was completely out of touch.

    I am as critical of Trump as anyone but to blame him for Biden’s incompetence in getting the border under control is ridiculous. It’s all on Joe and Kamala (she still is the VP, correct?).
     
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  19. gator95

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    I guess I'd try to say that also if I was proven wrong. I'm a little upset you aren't trying to convince me that you aren't far left. I would love to hear that explanation lol.
     
  20. citygator

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    Let's get Obama back. He had it under control. What was Trump doing in 2019? The beginning of 2020 was even worse prior to covid. Pretending somehow Biden invented a failing immigration system doesnt address reality.


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