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Florida NIL update

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by 31g8r, Mar 4, 2024.

  1. 31g8r

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  2. TJtheGator

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    So we still don’t have this figured out.

    Can’t help but think the UAA has a part to play.

    How come everyone else figured this out but us? That’s not dumb luck, that’s by design or lack of it.
     
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  3. BLING

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    Some other schools were already well practiced at paying players under the table before NIL, and NIL isnt supposed to be "pay for play" anyway. I'm guessing its a case of UF/compliance people trying to reign it in, whereas schools that already had illicit booster payments going to players maybe see it as as a green light to do whatever they want to do.

    As none of the “illicit” payments are likely being reported to IRS, literally any one of them could blow up into a criminal scandal.
     
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  4. apkgator

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    It said we are top 10....how come the other 100 schools below have not figured it out?
     
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  5. bike1014

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    Did you read the article? Or just the headline? We're somewhere in the top 10. By that measure, our NIL is way better than our actual team and it's not even close.
     
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  6. TJtheGator

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    Exactly so why are results not on par?

    Answer is no doubt more complex than just “Billy.”

    My gut feeling is the UAA has a hand in this. Still living deathly afraid of Charley Pell 2.0.
     
  7. sullivak

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    I agree, the other schools we all know were paying their players already had payroll systems in place. The IRS angle is intriguing.
     
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  8. ForeverGator

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    I think one of the hold-ups is we are not fielding a winning football team. Get that going and your NIL will take off too.
     
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  9. Wanne15

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    Everybody else didn’t figure it out. There was a few schools already operating that way and they stayed in the lead as their system was already completely in place.
     
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  10. bike1014

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    Which results? The recruiting (on paper) results....or the on field results?

    Our 2024 class was small...If it was larger we would have been top 10. Our average star rating was 5th....So that "result" was fine, especially considering we needed to save room for transfers. Yes we lost a few recruits at the end, but overall we're fine with that class IMO.

    It's still early, but the 2023 class seems to have a lot of promise and possibly even legit high-end talent. As I've mentioned, it's been a while since we have bona-fide ALL SEC players....Class of 2023 might prove to have a few of them. Don't know for sure, of course. But that class seems fine to me, too.

    So I assume you're talking about on field results then?
     
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  11. MarineG8R

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    This. The money will flow substantially more if the product on the field improves IMO. Hard to get people to open the wallet with 2 back to back losing seasons. Not a lot of excitement around the BN program.

    The question is do you need one before the other?
     
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    Unless your team and football program had an unknown NIL well established before the NIL was even legal... see the usual suspect football programs..
     
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    There was already an FBI investigation around corruption in the college basketball world. Unfortunately it didn’t lead anywhere. But sooooo much dirt came out it was flatly rediculous so little came of it (kind of like that Miami scandal) It’s not like any of this stuff stopped, NIL I’m sure made it worse.

    My point was though, if payments are sanctioned and vetted through an athletic department (or at least the NIL group has been vetted) there is higher chance it’s legal - and I assume UF is trying to dot the i’s and cross t’s with it’s NIL group (perhaps to detrimental effect). Whereas schools that were illegally giving kids brown bags full of cash are probably still winging it even though pay for play is technically not NIL. I just think the IRS has to be interested when people are talking about 7 figure deals. It’s sad to hope for the IRS to bust it all up, but you know the NCAA isn’t going to do shit at this point.
     
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  14. gatorrob87

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    Looks like they were just hoping it would all go away and really didn’t try to get in the game.
     
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  15. MarineG8R

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    Meh, I don't pretend UF didn't have their own. Meyer didn't recruit well only because he was a great recruiter. You gotta get a little dirty to win a title IMO.
     
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    Yep, we were so good at it we offered scooters while the other teams were offering $60,000 sports cars and Escalades..
     
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    Bama was relocating entire families and nobody batted an eye. People keep mentioning Fred Taylor's comments about Georgia giving him 50k and how a few of Meyer's big names were bought but we haven't had anything like the institutionalized system of pay for play that Bama and Georgia have had. Certainly not in the past 15 years.
     
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  18. antny1

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    I don't disagree at all but Bama under Saban changed how things were done. You don't beat a field of cheaters without cheating. Certainly not with the regularity that they and now Georgia are doing.
     
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  19. Wanne15

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    I go by results and I’d say we paid inside the top twenty but nowhere near top 3
     
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    Leon Orr said they were all on the payroll but Urbs left and Saban took it to a whole new level. Florida kept it on the down low much more because we aren’t in the good ol boys club and I think our school has their nose in the air a bit too.
     
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