UF has fired all staff in positions related to DEI.

Like solid gold.

 

In what way? I was asking the other poster to explain. Since you are responding, maybe you can provide an explanation. For example, how does DEI not stand for inclusion?

 

Thanks. It's nice to expose the hypocrites.

I'll be seeing ya.

 

Maybe instead of basing goals on diversity and inclusion they can base them on things like merit, research results and just producing students that are prepared to perform competently at whatever skills their major requires? Personally I don't care if the hospital I go to in an emergency has the most diverse staff, I care that they are medically competent.

 

I’m late to this party. First to preface-

- I think government making DEI or any such departments illegal is patently stupid
- the concepts of diversity equity and inclusion are generically admirable goals
- I have zero knowledge about what UF DEI employees actually do.

Stating those qualifiers, from what I have heard and read from some elite schools, like Harvard, DEI became kind of an overlaying structure that was essentially almost like an ideology enforcement mechanism. It wasn’t just about making sure admissions and hiring encouraged diversity etc, it also was used to police and censor non conforming language among students and faculty, such as “sex and gender are not the same thing” or “there are two sexes”.

To the extent a DEI department exhibited any of those type behaviors, then good riddance to them. Sometimes it is easier to blow things up vs trying to reform them.

Again I can’t speak to what UF DEI did or didn’t do. My wildly uneducated guess is that nobody on campus will suffer from its absence, but UF could suffer a reputational stain to the extent other universities view the actions negatively and much of college rankings are what various other college administrations think of each other.

 

Huh? Might wanna switch back to beer.

 

Yeah, you're wildly wrong. And I know that for a fact (even beyond the people who lost their jobs). Because I've spoken to people who are suffering due to UF discontinuing funding for certain DEI initiatives and shutting down offices and programs that provided them support.

Some of the funding UF just cut:

• Programs and activities that increase interest in STEM by engaging underrepresented and underserved students through student competitions, camps, and K-12 teacher support and training.
• A College level committee chaired by an elected faculty member intended to foster broad viewpoint diversity across the college through sponsoring guest artists, discussion forums, course enhancement grants, etc. Majority of their resources are disseminated in response to requests for support that come from the college community.
• The Office of Graduate Diversity Initiatives (OGDI) is a function of the Graduate School dedicated to recruitment and retention of underrepresented graduate students. OGDI provides students with social, informational, referral, and in some cases, financial support. OGDI maintains partnerships with administrative offices, academic units, research centers, student services, and organizations across campus to help students with the graduate experience.
• The Santa Fe to UF (SF2UF) Bridge Program seeks to increase the number of minority and underrepresented SF students in the biomedical and behavioral sciences who go on to transfer to UF and graduate with bachelor's degrees in biomedical and behavioral science-related disciplines. This program is funded by the National Institutes of Health (NIH)/ National Institute of General Medical Sciences (NIGMS) NIH Grant #R25GM115298. The goal of the program is to support the education, research experience, and professional development of students from underrepresented groups.

 

I'm not surprised you don't care. But other people have every reason to care about whether the hospitals they go to have diverse staff and have health care professionals who have had trainings on bias.
Diversity in medicine can save lives. Here's why there aren't more doctors of color
Racial bias in pain assessment and treatment recommendations, and false beliefs about biological differences between blacks and whites
Does Diversity Matter for Health? Experimental Evidence from Oakland
Patient-physician racial concordance and the perceived quality and use of health care
Black Representation in the Primary Care Physician Workforce and Its Association With Population Life Expectancy and Mortality Rates in the US

 

I think we're in agreement. It is (or should be) all about equality of opportunity. My points was that many folks treat the "E" in "DEI" as standing for equality of outcome.

 

I think the Office of the General Counsel is the one ensuring compliance with those laws. Far from a legal compliance role, the DEI office promotes a progressive viewpoint that allegedly promotes "diversity" while (ironically) lashing out against anyone who disagrees with their view points. They push for guaranteed outcomes rather than equality of opportunity (which IS a very important thing).

 

So... no more Disgusting Exclusionary Intolerance in any public schools in Florida... You gotta love that.

 

You should be thankful for such programs. After all, GC apparently welcomes the intellectual diversity you bring to its board. You are solely responsible for your own failures, we all are. Don't try to blame them on minorities or departments seeking to promote fairness of opportunities.

 

"Angry, mean spirited folks"?

You must be talking about the Obama/Biden Fascists who run our government, the mainstream media/internet and our school systems.

 

DEI at Uf did very little to impact campus in any meaningful way that influenced faculty or staff worklife. It did have a pretty significant impact on interested groups of students but that’s really it. Believe me I know people in central admin and although people generally feel bad for the staff impacted it really doesn’t impact functioning at all - everyone is just worried about optics a bit in so far as admissions and building out the new campus in Jacksonville.

 

There is a ton of info on their website that they said they were working on but lots of those initiatives were just being run by other people on campus and the DEI office might advise but that’s it. They really were not a central part of what Uf did. It was window dressing.

 

Give the man a cigar.

 

That’s what I’d say too if I was a strong liberal working for Sasse.

 

? Why? Also why do you assume I really even care about the dei office outside of the optics that make our jobs harder? Plenty of liberals don’t like dei. Just look at bill marrrrrr. I really don’t give a shit about sasse politics anymore. He’s one of my bosses I just want him to make my job easier and not harder. So far, with the on going political infighting and cluster eff non stop reorg in central admin, my job has only been harder.

 

just as an example they listed mentoring on their website - they didn’t do shit with that I know the mentoring peeps and they were not dei people they were faculty and staff from across campus

 

Not sure how this argues against my point that the most overall medically competent team would provide better care than one instead built on diversity. This likely includes trainings on lots of soft skills like managing and combating biases. It doesn't include hiring someone because they look different.

I don't care if my doctor is a blue alien provided they are extremely well qualified as a medical professional. If there's evidence this doctor is not providing equal level of care for all patients then this individual should be investigated thoroughly and they should face evidence based consequences. The answer is definitely not to simply allow under qualified people to practice medicine because they have certain non merit based qualities.

If a minority group is concerned they aren't represented in specific professions, might I suggest they perhaps do some introspection and wonder why that is? What differences are there between this minority's average household and say Jewish or Asian households? Find those differences and fix them on an individual level. Nobody likes this though as it involves personal responsibility and improving their own lives themselves rather than lowering standards for others so they can participate.