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Fani Willis, accused of affair with Trump prosecutor, vowed to not date staff in 2020: ‘Certainly in

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  1. mikemcd810

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    Definitely did not go well for Bradley, but if this gets thrown out, and the trials proceed, then it's not going to factor into the decision against Trump and co.

    How many trials do you recall that have been so much about the Prosecutor's personal life? The only one I can remember is Bubba the Love Sponge against MJ in which Bubba's attorneys set up MJ's attorney for which Bubba's three attorney's got disbarred.
     
  2. Gatoragman

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    You are right!!! As long as the judge rules in my belief then he is right!!! Otherwise, he is a political crackpot! That about sum it up for whatever the rulings will be? LOL
     
  3. mdgator05

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    As a reminder, that is the source of information for Trump's team on their relationship. That is their evidence.
     
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  4. mrhansduck

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    Wasn't there one former employee who testified about seeing them hug or something? I didn't watch her testimony.
     
  5. ursidman

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    Yes. She was allowed to resign from her position instead of being fired. Willis’s lawyers emphasized that point.
     
  6. mrhansduck

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    Part of me wonders whether the romantic nature of their relationship could have been established if they had just denied it from the beginning. Clinton, for example, got caught based on the dress and Linda Tripp's recording calls with Monica. If Willis and Wade had both said that they were very close and even traveled together as friends and colleagues but that their relationship never became romantic or sexual, would that have been a conflict of interest as well or would the criminal defendants have to prove they actually had sex? Perhaps there were writings or admissions by one of them so they couldn't deny it. If that's the case, I suppose the memories of third parties is more about establishing a timeline than anything.
     
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  7. Gatoragman

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    So, what are you saying?
     
  8. mdgator05

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    That the source of their information is apparently unreliable.
     
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  9. gaterzfan

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    The text exchange between Wade and Merchant re when the Willis-Wade affair began. You can decide if Willis committed perjury of if Bradley did …. or if both did.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v..._she_is_not_brought_up_on_felony_charges.html

    In one exchange about Fani Willis and Nathan Wade's relationship Ashleigh Merchant says:

    “Like... just date, don't hire him.”

    Merchant: "Do you think it started before she hired him?"

    Terrence writes back: "Absolutely. It started when she left the DA's office and was judge in South Fulton.

    ...she became a judge in 2019..."

    Ashleigh thumbs up that one.

    And Terrence also says: "They met at the Municipal Court CLE conference."

    Ashleigh responds... "That's what I figured. When he was married."

    On January 5th – days before her bombshell filing... seeking to disqualify them both from this case against the former president of the United States, Ashleigh Merchant texts Terrence: "Is this accurate?

    Upon information and belief, Willis and Wade met while both were serving as Magistrate Judges and began a romantic relationship at that time."

    Terrance responds: "No Municipal Court."

    Ashleigh says: "Thank you."

    The two also texted about the legal filing... and Terrence directed her to add him into a footnote about the amount of money he made from the DA's office.

    Ashleigh responded to him: "I took you out. I can add that back! Good point."

    Terrence: "Yes add it back."

    Ashleigh: "Anything else? Anything that isn't accurate?"

    Terrence: "Looks good."

    Ashleigh hearts that.

    Ashleigh then asks him: "How do you think they will respond? I'm trying to anticipate."
     
  10. mikemcd810

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    Feels like a combination - Willis lying and Bradley either lying on the stand or in text message.

    My gut feel is that the affair probably had been going on for a while and Bradley strongly suspected that but didn't have proof. Seems he was hoping that the defense attorneys would be able to find other corroborating evidence and leave him out of it, but when they couldn't, he didn't have anything solid that he could point to as proof. It reads to me like if someone asks you about gossip or a rumor at work and says "do you think that's true?" to which you reply "oh absolutely!" even if you don't have any proof that it's true.
     
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    This is the most damning part right here, because it indicates Bradley had reason to fear what Wade was involved in and wanted to make it clear he was not a part of it.
     
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  13. gatorjo

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    Apparently two of the prosecutors were engaged in a romantic relationship. Big deal.

    But you are magnitudes more outraged about that than the crime being prosecuted - a clear conspiracy to defraud voters by trying to overturn a legitimate election. Clearly you can see how that impacts the value of your posts, no ?
     
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  14. gaterzfan

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    Somewhat OT but the crazy just seems to grow in Fulton County:

    Hackers Threaten to Release Trump Court Files Within Hours (msn.com)

    "A ransomware group shut down by the FBI after threatening to release confidential files from Georgia's Fulton County court system, including files related to the criminal case against former President Trump, appears to have resurrected. LockBit is now threatening to release files that "could affect the upcoming US election" within hours. On Saturday, just four days after the FBI and UK's National Crime Agency infiltrated LockBit's websites and servers and arrested two people, the group was back with a new website and a claim that it had backup copies of documents stolen from the Fulton County government's website. It threatened to release the files March 2 unless an unspecified ransom was paid. But it has since moved up the deadline to 8:49am ET Thursday, per Business Insider.

    The group, which provides sophisticated ransomware to affiliate hackers, taking a cut of ransoms paid, is thought to have targeted over 2,000 victims, receiving $120 million in ransom funds, according to the Justice Department, which claims two Russian nationals are involved. Fulton County's computer systems were hacked Jan. 27. LockBit then released a countdown timer, saying files would be released Feb. 16 unless a ransom was paid. When a countdown timer expires, it's usually replaced by a link to download stolen files. But that didn't happen Feb. 16, which led some to speculate that Fulton County was negotiating with the hackers. County Commission Chairman Robb Pitts denied that in a Feb. 20 press conference, just hours after LockBit's websites were seized.

    "The FBI decided to hack now for one reason only, because they didn't want to leak information fultoncountyga.gov," read Saturday's message from LockBit leader LockBitSupp, who expressed support for Trump. It's not clear what files the group may have stolen related to the Trump case, but it published a sampling of files earlier this month that included "a sealed record related to a child abuse case," according to Krebs on Security. George Chidi of the Atlanta Objective notes there are fears that "hackers will be able to give any attorney defending a criminal case in the county a starting place to argue that evidence has been tainted or witnesses intimidated, and that the release of confidential information has compromised cases."
     
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  15. gaterzfan

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    Closing arguments are today. What sort of misrepresentations will be heard, today?

    Georgia Case Against Trump Takes Big Hit as Fani Willis Fights Disqualification (msn.com)

    "Despite all the uncertainty in Donald Trump’s Georgia election-interference case, several legal experts said one thing has become clear: Fani Willis’s case has been damaged.

    Willis, the Fulton County district attorney who brought the racketeering case against the former president and 18 others, might still beat the effort to disqualify her. But the ethics scandal that has hung over the case for two months has blunted momentum from notching early plea deals, experts say. It also has likely undermined her ability to obtain guilty pleas from the remaining defendants.

    “The cloud that’s hanging over this case—it’s a real concern and it’s certainly going to stay with Willis,” said Chris Timmons, a former racketeering prosecutor in Georgia who has closely followed the Trump case.

    Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee is overseeing closing arguments Friday on a motion to disqualify Willis, who several co-defendants in the case including Trump accused of financially benefiting from the case by hiring a romantic partner, Nathan Wade, to be her top deputy on the case."
     
  16. higator85

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    If Trumps lawyer is speaking there will be lots of misrepresentation primarily lies and damn lies. They are too stupid to use statistics.
     
  17. GatorNorth

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    I think Willis has been damaged far more than the case itself, which is entirely unrelated to Willis' or Wade's personal lives. Remove both of them and the cloud goes away, which at most is what should happen here due to an "appearance of impropriety" Whether they lied or not is a separate legal matter to be dealt with on its own outside of the RICO case in principal.

    Her reputation, however, is badly stained. I doubt you'll see her running for DA again and after this settles she may even resign prior to the end of her term. All Wade had to do is was either turn down the appointment (if they were dating at the time) or recuse himself when the relationship started (if they weren't) and they'd have no issues whatsoever. Their arrogance is what created their problem, but their problem has absolutely ZERO to do with the guilt or innocence of the defendants (3 of whom who've already pled guilty and agreed to cooperate with the prosecution).
     
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  18. ursidman

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    Agree. She doesn’t recover from this in my view. Her public career is all but over.

    It does not change the facts in the case whatsoever. trump was indicted by a grand jury - iirc after another grand jury had heard the evidence and recommended indicting more than a dozen people including trump.
    She and Wade should both stand down. Wade has no experience prosecuting major cases or public corruption. Need someone better qualified.
     
  19. okeechobee

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    Removing politics from this, what are the logistics of this case if the DA and lead prosecutor are removed? Does it go into a holding stage and resume when a new DA and prosecutor are named? How does the case proceed with a brand new DA and lead? Seems at best it will delay the trial significantly and with Trump leading... feels futile, no?