Undergrads are not generally profitable on tuition (especiaply in-state ones). And UF already added that amount, going from the high 13k admitted in 2017 to over 15k admitted in 2022.
So we are adding little by little then? I like to think that adding little by little is a constant so long as the quality of students and the new availability goes to more (but not all new openings) Florida students.
I know there is a UF bias here, but those aren't clown colleges, and plenty of top students go there too (particularly for specific programs). The valedictorian of my HS went to UCF.
Yes, and I'll bet many of those students got denied entry into The University of Florida... my point made even stronger, thank you.
Yes, that is generally how it has worked. Again, UF is very heavily in-state and has been growing. Again, the issue is that states the size of Florida don't just have one flagship University. That is where Florida has the issue. They could have built UCF into that (when I went to UF, they were going that direction and were aggressively recruiting IB students), but instead they chose to just make it massive. And FSU has never really been able to raise its standards high enough to emulate a UCLA or Texas A&M.
You're getting off course here... We need to ensure that if a kid grows up in the state of Florida and gets good enough grades/SAT scores to get into The University of Florida that there is an opportunity to attend Florida. And these total numbers can't be more than 1K or 2K per year becasue it's still hard for these Florida kids to achieve those standards.
there is an opportunity to go there, perhaps not start there, but get an AA and then go there. Transfer Decision Process - University of Florida (ufl.edu) Applicants who have received an Associate in Arts (AA) degree from a Florida public institution immediately prior to transferring receive priority consideration for admission provided the application and all supporting documents are received in the Office of Admissions by the deadline.
It looks like USF is doing a pretty good job. My step son graduated from there a few years ago and it has served him well in the job market.
NIL is Name, image, and likeness set up for athletes. No one, and I mean no one I know that gives to Florida Victorious (a Fl. NIL) gives any for academics or buildings. They can donate separately to the university should they choose. Also Florida associated NIL monies are underfunded when compared to Ga., Bama, LSU, Ohio St., etc. leaving UF with a monetary disadvantage. One example is DJ Lagway who we were lucky to keep and sign. He stayed with UF due to he and his family’s relationship with Napier and a few upper echelon boosters who befriended him. The day before signing day he was offered 3 million for 3 years (9 total) by a university out west. Our NIL isn’t at that level. Imo any of our other recruits would have bolted. So at this time there’s no way NIL will go to anything but athletes, mostly to football players. If that happened it would dry up to nothing.
Tons of issues here. The fact that you haven't defined "good enough." The fact that the number of students meeting this unknown criteria is likely not static. The fact that this is what admissions does, and, since they determine what is "good enough," this entire argument is tautological.
Why are you trying to make this about me and you? Don't try and make this about the past like the early '80's... And this is NOT about you and the 1980's... Stay on the subject at hand.
Not meaning to bash USF, UCF, or even FSU. But none are really a flagship still. Berkeley and UCLA are both Top 20 (with Davis and San Diego Top 30 and two more Top 40). Austin is 32 with A&M at 47. Georgia and Tech are both in the Top 50. Same with Virginia and Virginia Tech. Essentially, Florida needs another Top 50 University.
Lol. I’ve read comments from others that have no idea what and how NIL works and thought you may be one. Theres so much BS here at times, it’s often hard for me to figure it out.
That's the real question isn't it. Is that arbitrary... do they use some sort of formula to accept some students with the same exact grades than other students? I think these American/Florida students deserve a Bill of Rights to see all University of Florida's acceptance criteria, and all other comparative scores to their scores of those (no names) being admitted into the University of Florida.
