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Enough w the Court storming . . . Time to End it

Discussion in 'Nuttin but Net' started by gatordavisl, Feb 24, 2024.

  1. GatorPlanet

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    Yeah, it was a handful of punks. Not a real "storming."
     
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  2. gatordavisl

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    Where does that $ go, though? If it’s to the SEC coffers, then I’d seek another solution.
     
  3. GatorPlanet

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    Good question, I don't have any idea where it goes. Award it to the school that had to suffer the storming, would be my suggestion.
     
  4. paidinfull

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    Doesn’t it go to the “victim” school?
     
  5. Brodeur

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  6. GatorRade

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    By community, I understand you to mean the people storming the court. Under Bazza’s plan, the act of celebration for the win would itself nullify the win that was being celebrated. Hard to align the competing interests of the different stakeholders better than that.
     
  7. gatordavisl

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    Respectfully, I don't see it that way. Consider the population of stakeholders and then begin with the question of how many storm the court - what, 300 or so? Maybe 500 tops? Now compare that with the number of home fans in the arena (in the thousands). There might be thousands of home fans who prefer that the court storm not happen. Under Bazz's proposal, you would be punishing all of those stakeholders, including the players and coaches, for the actions of a few hundred. How about the thousands of fans who watched on TV? The proposal has a neg impact on them as well.

    In the end, though, the essential question of the thread was "to storm or not to storm." I'm less interested in arguing over the method of storm prevention.
     
  8. Distant Gator

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    I was telling my elderly father-in law- a Duke grad- about this and I had to throw in that Florida doesn't allow this.
    He asked me whether it happened at Duke.
    I said I didn't think so- Duke always expects to win and this kind of thing only happens when there is an upset. (It seems like.)
    I certainly could be wrong about this- I don't follow Duke that closely.

    So maybe it's the mark of a loser type school who finally gets a win.
     
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  9. Kirby

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    Make the fine $1M and it goes to the opposing team, not to the conference
     
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  10. grant1

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    one could argue that the Dukie stepped in front of the fan, thus causing his own injury. bring on the bacon!
     
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  11. GatorPlanet

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    Come on, Li'l Bro. One Dukie shoved him from behind.
     
  12. Brodeur

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    True, but Filipowski should never be in that situation in the first place. If Flip started throwing haymakers and knocking out Wake students, I'd defend him. Those students shouldn't be there, period. And yes, one Wake student clearly pushed Flip in the back too.
     
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  13. spike718

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    I agree. After Tenn beat Bama in football in 2022 and stormed the field the AD joked how they will gladly pay the fine. It is zero deterrent. AD semi encouraging (after the fact) rushing the field /court doesn’t help.
     
  14. Porschegator

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    My son and I were at that game. Don't remember the incident but I sure remember the upset and those damn cowbells. What a nightmare.
     
  15. Gatorhead

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    Pat Dooley likes this solution:

    100,000 K fine is not severe enough to prevent stormings. He suggests: Football and Basketball.
    Fans storm before the players leave, forfeit one home game for every time this happens.

    He seems confident this would induce the schools to take the issue seriously.

    SOS believes fans should have the right to storm but advises that security should hold the fans back 90 seconds,
    which he believes is enough time for the players and coaches to leave the court or the field.
     
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  16. murphree_hall

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    Easy to say when it’s taxpayer or donor money. What if it came out of his check? I wonder if he’d still gladly pay the fine.
     
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  17. tilly

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    Its sad that all fun things get ruined these days.

    One of my daughters greatest memories of her two years at App State is the storming the field after the insane hail mary win in 2022... And in the moment i was going nuts in my living room too. She told me there were far more medical issues than we ever heard about though. None serious but several needed treatment.

    I remember watching the game and being worried that my 18 year old little girl was in that chaos while somehow still happy that she was experiencing it..
     
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  18. grant1

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    2 wrongs don't make a right and if that happened, Flip would be suspended for the next game (or rest of the season) and rightly so. Also, that "push"/shove has been brought 4-5 times and it was harldy a push. The Wake fan barely touched him.

    that's about as dumb of a concept as there could be. suppose the school had beefed up secuirty, but still couldn't hold back the storm; they would still subject to a forfeit???

    exactly! I ran onto the filed at the Erector Set back in the early 80s with Bob Graham leading the cheers. a f$u student ran by and sucker-punched me and I decided that it was time to return to the stands. Soon after, they turned on the sprinklers are started arresting fans on the field
     
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  19. Claygator

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    The idea is to come up with a punishment that stops the storming. Fines haven't done it.

    Said "population of stakeholders" that you reference might be inclined to see to it that stormings stop if their "stake" in the outcome of games was compromised because they had to forfeit a game.
     
  20. spike718

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    I like that idea. not sure how you get that set up but if the AD would get a personal fine, damn straight they would have more security around to prevent it.