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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by wingtee, Feb 23, 2024.

  1. wingtee

    wingtee GC Hall of Fame

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    Really tired of reading horrible stories of Florida students with incredible
    credentials not being accepted into the university. 4.8, bringing college credits. Community service etc… So many legacy kids are not going to be able to come to UF. Our administration/ admissions office is really screwing up.
    Those contributions from parent and alumni will soon stop coming in .
    We are no longer a flagship state university. This administration has turned UF into an international university. It’s wrong and it sucks.
     
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  2. wingtee

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  3. oragator1

    oragator1 Premium Member

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    I get people not being happy about family or friends not getting in.
    But are you really gonna tell a kid that they didn’t get in because heir parents didn’t go there and someone else’s did? That’s just silly, you take the best kids, period. Anything else goes against the basic charter of a public school.
    And a UF has among the highest in state percentages of any higher end university in the country. But there should be out of state kids, and there should be international kids there, for a dozen reasons. It’s just a question to how many.
     
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  4. ncargat1

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    Well, when we throw all of the semi-pro athletes who have no business being at a university out, more of those legitimate students who are being shut out should get in. We need to stop wasting our time and resources pretending the "athletes" are legitimate students, send them packing and refocus our resources on the core mission of the university. Educating students, specifically and preferentially the residents of the state.
     
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  5. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    It never occurred to me that legacy should be an issue
    Has it ever been?
     
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  6. oragator1

    oragator1 Premium Member

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    Fat finger, I removed it.
     
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  7. QGator2414

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    One of my daughters best friends boy friend did not get in with a 1590 SAT. Got to say that one surprised me. Granted I don’t know his grades or extra curricular activities. I did hear him give a speech at National Honors Society (he is the President of it) that would make me believe he did have a bad year grade wise and had a turning moment.
     
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  8. StrangeGator

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    That's very suspect. My niece got in with a 31 ACT and a 1390 on the SAT. Might have been an issue of core credits. I think you have to have three years of foreign language and a year of Calc.
     
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  9. mdgator05

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    Why is not prioritizing students because their parents went to a certain college or are rich enough to make contributions wrong? Seems like a call for a version of gentry.
     
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  10. channingcrowderhungry

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    I thought right wingers were against affirmative action and just wanted straight meritocracy? No Bueno?
     
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    UF is a highly respected academic institution; hard earned. Get in in because the merits are there versus " it's a family tradition".
     
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  12. wingtee

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    It has and UF has gotten away from it
     
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  13. wingtee

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    Like I said these kids earned it . Why legacy ? Because these parents have generally gifted UF for all these years!
     
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  14. wingtee

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    It’s always political and racial with you isn’t it.
     
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  15. gator_lawyer

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    The "semi-pro athletes" barely affect admissions. There are at most a couple hundred of them. And they bring a ton of money into the school and the community.
    A lot of kids earned it. Many won't get in. We shouldn't give the children of donors or alums any leg up.
    He didn't make it racial. Legacy preferences are just as "unmeritocratic" as race-based preferences. Why is affirmative action okay in one scenario but not the other?
     
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    The kids earned it because their parents may have gifted to UF for many years? You don't see the issue with that statement?
     
  17. rivergator

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    I’ve never heard that. But when my son applied to UF, I never thought for a second that he should have an advantage because I’m a UF grad, as was my father.
     
  18. GatorRade

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    In addition to the points brought up above, there’s also a geometric math problem. Let’s say 40k students go to UF. Average fertility rate in the USA is about 1.6 births per female. This means we might expect these students to produce ~64,000 offspring, and therefore UF couldn’t fit in all the alumni children, even if they didn’t let in a single other Florida resident or international student.

    I do think you and I should agree that Florida’s new grandparent waiver is a bad law that is only going to make this competition problem worse for in-state kids.

    Grandchildren of Florida residents could get tuition break at state schools
     
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  19. wgbgator

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    Well, if we want to be the Harvard of the south it probably is true we need to admit like 40%+ legacy students and daddy bought my way in kids.
     
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  20. QGator2414

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    Definitely could be. Don’t believe they were going Stem but maybe music or political science. I certainly was surprised. But your thought is something I had not thought of.