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Hypothetical election poll

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by dangolegators, Feb 17, 2024.

Which option do you prefer

  1. I prefer Trump and I'll take my chances on a Trump/Biden matchup

    16.7%
  2. I prefer Trump but I'll take Haley for sure rather than take my chances on a Trump/Biden matchup

    3.0%
  3. I prefer Biden and I'll take my chances on a Trump/Biden matchup

    22.7%
  4. I prefer Biden but I'll take Haley for sure rather than take my chances on a Trump/Biden matchup

    22.7%
  5. I prefer Haley over both Biden and Trump

    34.8%
  1. mikemcd810

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    You really can't understand it? Do you think people should pick a political party at 18 and never deviate from that? Is there absolutely nothing a candidate could do that would result in you not voting for them? That to me is a very dangerous position and one that I can't understand.
     
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  2. ridgetop

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    I truly do not care what anyone else thinks. in fact I find most people usually do bother to think for themselves. Group think, tribalism is so much easier.
    I won’t vote for men or women I do not trust to lead the country. By voting I put my personal stamp of approval on the person I vote for.. why would I do that for men I find morally, mentally, and ethically lacking? You can disagree with me.. that’s all good. You can vote for who ever you wish. I do t need to know and I do t care who it is.
     
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  3. flgator2

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    That's what I said. What's dangerous is leaving the same idiot in charge for another 4 years
     
  4. mikemcd810

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    That's fine if that's your position, I just find it bizarre that you said you can't understand why people would choose not to vote for Trump. I don't think it's controversial to say that he's objectively the most flawed Presidential candidate in recent history, so it shouldn't be surprising that some people don't think he should be President, even if he is the nominee for their party.
     
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  5. VAg8r1

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  6. flgator2

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    What's bizarre about that? They're conservatives or republicans who aren't voting for Trump or Biden. So, if you don't vote for Trump that means your vote will help Biden. I don't know understand why a conservative or republican would waste a vote like that, he was a pretty damn good president
     
  7. l_boy

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    I am still shocked at these results. It tells me that most of the Haley supporters probably don’t post. I probably have most of the Trump supporters blocked and there are very few on here that I’ve seen that not vote D.
     
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  8. mikemcd810

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    I suppose the way I look at things is that you don't have a sworn duty to vote for a person just because they have the same letter next to their name as your affiliated party. Sometimes, there are going to be people running for office who don't align to the specific reasons with which you align to that party. With the number of warts that Trump has, it shouldn't be surprising that some people would rather see a Democrat be President than for Trump to be President again:
    • Facing 91 felony counts
    • Found guilty of fraud in NY and fined almost $400 million dollars
    • Found liable for sexual assault, and because he can't control himself, fined an additional $83 million in damages
    • Only President who required a subpoena to return classified documents, and even then, tried to hide them so he wouldn't have to return them
    • Refused to accept the election results, and results of subsequent lawsuits, leading to Jan 6th during which, in the most charitable explanation for Trump, he didn't act in a timely manner to try and stop what was happening at the Capitol building
    • Cheated on his wife with a porn star while she was home with their newborn
    • Derogatory comments toward the military, POWs, gold star families
    • Poor leadership and organization skills having a very high turnover rate for senior appointees, fires them, and says how incompetent and/or unqualified they are
    • Recently said he'd encourage Russia to attack our allies if they don't allocate 2% of their budget toward defense
    • General extreme narcissistic traits (even compared to other politicians)
    That's just off the top of my head. Yes, Biden has a list of negatives as well, but given the above it shouldn't at all be a surprise that some people who identify as Republicans don't think Trump should be President again.
     
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  10. Gatorrick22

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    NOT AT ALL LIKE REAL, OLD FASHIONED, VACCINES... And scientists need far more time. these mRNA "vaccines" in fact change your DNA. The former version where doctors use a severely diminished form of the disease, or a near dead strains of diseases, give your own immune system time can make it's own defense against certain pathogens... The mRNA is NOT even close to the same thing. These mRNA vaccines should still be in the experimental stage... but the government is making it easy for big pharmaceutical companies to play god with people's lives just so they can rush a vaccine to the market$$$$$$$.

    I'm still glad I read up on this plandemic poison before it was made almost mandatory for us all the take that killer jab.

    One more thing if you can take something to sure it and ONE DAY LATER you are cured... why take that experimental jab in the first place? For the life of me I cannot understand why people took that jab.

    There are now 3 monoclonal compounds that supposedly work onCovid-19 flues. But back then we only had one version and it worked as a ONE DAY CURE.

    I often wonder what would compel people to take that experimental drug...the only answer is fear... fear that somehow just getting Covid-19 would be far more dangerous than attempting to prevent from getting it, which the vaccine do not prevent. The vaccine was useless, IMHO. So... I never took the jab and I am forever happy about mt personal decision not to take it.

    Now, the the case to prevent Polio... yes, I would gt the OLD FASHIONED version of vaccine for that, but I still would never take an mRNA vaccine for Polio. Same thing for Measles and other preventable diseases.
     
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  11. dangolegators

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    You are very misinformed.
     
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  12. flgator2

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    I guess the way I look at it is this has all been a political witch hunt and a waste of our tax dollars. We don't need Biden or the dems in control of our borders. Trump had it under control and in a month Biden ruined what was accomplished
     
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    Sure he did. The number of unauthorized border crossings did drop in Trump's first year in office (2017) before increasing in 2018 and taking off in 2019. The number did drop in 2020 as the result of the pandemic before taking off again in 2021. Seems that Obama was the president who really had it "under control" considering that in every year during Obama's two terms illegal crossings were far lower than in 2019, Trump's last year prior to the pandemic.
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  14. flgator2

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  15. VAg8r1

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    So you believe that there were more deportations under Trump than Obama.
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  16. flgator2

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    Hey little fella was talking about Joe B, I see you can't defend him so you circle back to Barry. How typical of our local libbies
     
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  17. tilly

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    Rick. That "killer" vaccine saved my dads life.
    If he had followed your "advice" he probably would be gone.
     
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  18. VAg8r1

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    Context matters and according to you the defeated indicted former president represents perfection when it comes to security at the Southern border. By the way how's wall that Trump promised would be financed by Mexico rather than US taxpayers working out?
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  19. flgator2

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    I know a lot of people feel the way you do, which you may be correct but seeing all the info out there now about the vaccine I would have to disagree. Either way praise God that he's still alive.
     
  20. tilly

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    Appreciate the kind words, but think about the danger Involved in definitive statements like "killer vaccine". They discourage people like my dad who has respiratory illness from getting life saving medical help.

    Many of the people that feel like I do... are doctors. Many conservatives btw, like my fathers.

    I am not a supporter of mandates, but people have to stop taking such absolute positions with very little to back them up. And no some fringe site that happens to load higher on duckduckgo than google doesnt count as back up.
     
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