This poster will never admit they were wrong. Just laugh at them and move on. I learned that lesson a long time ago...
Not according to the American Psychiatric Association although I can understand how easy it is for some individuals to describe a condition that they do not comprehend and find bizarre as a mental illness. Being transgender no longer a 'mental disorder': APA (2012) Since you apparently disagree with the APA when did you receive your doctorate in clinical psychology or your board certification in psychiatry? Just asking. By the way transgendered persons who are denied treatment or are forced into the form of quackery referred to as conversion therapy are those who are likely to develop actual serious mental illnesses.
Gender isn't binary. And while sex usually is, it isn't entirely binary. I don't see sexual orientation as binary either. There are certainly differences between trans women and cis women. I consider both to fall under the umbrella of "women."
I noticed you didn't comment on the "presenting as" vs. "is" aspect. At minimum, it should be understandable why not everybody is willing to subscribe to the idea that "presenting as" = "is." If you had a close friend (male) or maybe even a son (male) that you know is seeking a potential long-term relationship with somebody who is female. If they present to you a "woman" that you happen to know is a "trans-woman" (and they give no indication that they are aware of this), would you tell them what you know or would you keep it to yourself? *If* your answer is "no" would you have a problem if others did tell where you wouldn't (even if in completely different circumstances)? Go GATORS! ,WESGATORS
Interesting study about Gender Dysphoria in Finland. One would think this would cause some of the "let's give kids drugs to be the opposite sex" to rethink their beliefs but we all know that won't ever happen. All-cause and suicide mortalities among adolescents and young adults who contacted specialised gender identity services in Finland in 1996–2019: a register study Abstract Background All-cause and suicide mortalities of gender-referred adolescents compared with matched controls have not been studied, and particularly the role of psychiatric morbidity in mortality is unknown. Findings Of the 55 deaths in the study population, 20 (36%) were suicides. In bivariate analyses, all-cause mortality did not statistically significantly differ between gender-referred adolescents and controls (0.5% vs 0.3%); however, the proportion of suicides was higher in the gender-referred group (0.3% vs 0.1%). The all-cause mortality rate among gender-referred adolescents (controls) was 0.81 per 1000 person-years (0.40 per 1000 person-years), and the suicide mortality rate was 0.51 per 1000 person-years (0.12 per 1000 person-years). However, when specialist-level psychiatric treatment was controlled for, neither all-cause nor suicide mortality differed between the two groups: HR for all-cause mortality among gender-referred adolescents was 1.0 (95% CI 0.5 to 2.0) and for suicide mortality was 1.8 (95% CI 0.6 to 4.8). Conclusions Clinical gender dysphoria does not appear to be predictive of all-cause nor suicide mortality when psychiatric treatment history is accounted for. Clinical implications It is of utmost importance to identify and appropriately treat mental disorders in adolescents experiencing gender dysphoria to prevent suicide.
One would think you would have learned not to trust a single study and call it definitive yet. Especially when something like 95% of all scientific papers end up being disproven as 100% accurate. If you are curious about the data on suicide reduction, here's a study that looked at multiple studies on the topic through the years. Their conclusion? More research and agreement on definitions are needed. Part of the issue is low number of persons in each study, meaning 1 person's outcome may have too high an effect on percentages. It's also obvious who here has zero actual experience dealing with a trans child or a parent of a trans kid. My two kids present as the gender from birth, but someone in my family has a child who is trans. Our two youngest were born within a few months of each other, same gender assigned at birth, and we were excited to see them grow up together. My kid has never shown any gender dysmorphia issues, but the other kid started showing signs as early as two. Think instead of having favorite superheroes like Ironman and Batman, they gravitated more towards Black Widow and Wonder Woman. "It's a phase," and "They will grow out of it," were common phrases during this time period. Only, they didn't. By age 4, it was sartorial issues, especially when they dressed up during religious services or other reasons. Questions around this time period were, "What did I do differently that my kid is 'normal,' and the other kid isn't?" Or, "What can I do to fix my gender dysmorphic child?" By around the 5th birthday, regular visits to the family therapist and child psychologist were common. Before the child entered kindergarten, they decided to transition the child. It's been four years, and the child has never wavered on their gender. They are happy, well adjusted, smart as a whip, and the teacher says they are the smartest kid in class. If you had met the family in the past three years, you would have zero idea their kid was trans, and I know you wouldn't be calling the parents "pure evil." My kid doesn't have gender issues, but they are a huge introvert. "Painfully shy," is the phrase we've heard often. He's been seeing a therapist for about a year now, and we've enrolled them in things that will hopefully help his confidence. My kid is a blue belt now, and progressing quickly. What really struck me and the other dad is how different the problems our respective kids are facing, but how similar the way we are treating it, and how similar our feelings are. We'd love to be able to wave a magic wand and help our children become who we want them to be. But we can't. That's not possible. Our kids are who they are, and while we can guide them, we can't fundamentally change who they are. We can only get them help and hope that works out for the best. And in the end, love them for who they are, warts and all. If this makes me "pure evil," because I support how the trans kid is being handled, so be it. But I see the results, the differences, and the experiences of both the kid and the parents. Maybe ten years ago I would have said it would crazy to transition a child as early as 6, but then I remember my Dylan, "Don't criticize what you can't understand." And now, being a lot closer than ever before, I understand a lot more. And frankly, I'm glad it's not my kid, and don't envy the next few years of decisions the trans parents have ahead of them.
And yet another biological male throwing girls around like ragdolls. Don't worry, the lefties said this stuff never happens... High school basketball game is abandoned after trans player 'injures three female opponents' with shocking video showing the biological male hurling an athlete to the floor | Daily Mail Online
So what does it mean to be trans, but not have gender dysphoria, which is included in the DSM-5? How does one determine they are trans if they don’t have gender dysphoria? Is trans simply a choice, or is there actually some psychological aspect to it that goes beyond a simple choice?
Trans teen beaten in the bathroom and dies the next day. School didn't call an ambulance for the injured student, or report the bullying and violence against the student to the police, but did suspend the student for two weeks. Oklahoma banned trans students from bathrooms. Now a bullied student is dead
Hmmmm... source is from the UK and I can't find any reputable American news media outlet carrying this story. Some of you should familiarize yourself with the term propaganda.
From a news outlet more local to the events: Parents of Owasso High School student who died after fight in bathroom speak out From another news outlet more local to the events: https://www.kjrh.com/news/local-new...taff-students-in-connection-to-students-death Another news outlet more local to the events: Death of Owasso teen prompts investigation and statements from LGBTQ+ organization, Superintendent Walters 16-year-old Nex Benedict died earlier this month one day after officials say they got into a fight at Owasso High School. According to the school district, the fight broke out in a bathroom and was broken up by other students after which Benedict and the others were reportedly given a health assessment by a district nurse. School officials say the nurse found no need to call an ambulance, saying, “it was recommended to one parent that their student visit a medical facility for further examination.” Benedict was reportedly taken to the hospital for treatment and was released but needed to return the next day, where they later died.
It still feels "sus", because if it was true, it would be all over national news media. Look at the coverage Navalny is getting and he's not even an American. I say it still feels sus, because school nurse saw no need for ambulance, Benedict then was "reportedly" taken to a "medical facility" (presumably a hospital??) and released same day. But then returned the next day and died. Now if all that is true, it sounds like something else may have happened after the first visit to the "medical facility." That's the part that doesn't make sense. A murder victim doesn't get released same day and then come back to the hospital next day and die. While I suppose that's technically possible, it's just very rare unless we're dealing with gunshot wounds or something of that ilk. I would have to think whomever was involved in the fight would be already under arrest for manslaughter/murder, or being detained by police. There are a lot of elements missing to this story that you would normally see with a homicide. This feels a lot like one of those stories we should really allow the proper time for all the facts to come out, because some of it's clearly not adding up. Perhaps more time and detail will confirm this was indeed a crime and if so, the perpetrators involved should be sentenced to the maximum. But again, it feels like there's holes in this story as it stands now.
Is a story where the investigation isn't complete yet different from propaganda? Oklahoma police say nonbinary teen's death was not result of injuries from high school fight OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — A 16-year-old Oklahoma high school student who died a day after an altercation in a school restroom that may have been prompted by bullying over gender identity did not die as a result of injuries sustained in the fight, police said Wednesday. Police in the suburban Tulsa community of Owasso are investigating the death of 16-year-old Nex Benedict, whose family said identified as nonbinary and used they/them pronouns. Although the cause of death has not been determined, Owasso police said in a statement preliminary autopsy results indicate the teen did not die as a result of injuries sustained in the fight. “At this time, any further comments on the cause of death are currently pending until toxicology results and other ancillary testing results are received,” the statement says.
Yes, there is a vast difference in waiting for all the facts to come out and claiming that a kid was killed by bullies at their high school before police have even opined. If I can look at the known facts of the events and determine there's more to the story, anyone who publishes for a living can do that too. This was just a lie and yes, a propaganda piece. Most readers won't check back to find out the entire narrative was debunked.
Is it possible that "gender affirming" care could be useful to help reaffirm a male that he is who he supposed to be? When we say that we know "gender affirming" care is helpful, couldn't it simply be that it was always necessary and different children may need more of it than others? I remember from when our children were younger, the moms had their mom groups, and...man...what a diverse pool that was in terms of how people raise their kids. Not saying anything was particularly wrong, but there was clearly a "that's not for us" with how others chose to do things and I'm sure the same sentiment was reciprocated based on our own household structure was viewed by others. I would never have settled for "it's a phase" or "will grow out of it," but I understand others who don't like such boundaries are less likely to interfere. My wife and I didn't always agree on these sorts of things, but I would have needed to see the evidence that suggests that boundaries are not useful in this regard. At the age of 2, I'm simply distracting the boy with a cooler representation of toys that I'd rather him play with (doesn't even have to be M/F, might be the difference of tennis vs. golf for example). He's certainly not picking out what he's going to be wearing at the age of 4. I'm not sure I would have all the right answers (or any for that matter), but we know for certain there is a degree of conditioned behavior involved in what activities one has a preference for. We don't know if there's a genetic component to it or to what extent that genetic component is subject to conditioned behavior; but it stands to reason that something that is based on a social construct is not entirely hard wired. Go GATORS! ,WESGATORS
This is one of many examples of how warped the entire thing is. What 4-year old boy is throwing a tantrum about wanting to wear a dress to pre-school unless something was presented to them that made him think the dress was a life necessity? I don't think most 4-year olds even grasp the concept of men's versus women's clothing. Perhaps a cursory understanding at best. If that toddler truly is distressed because he can't wear a dress, then he's being groomed in one way or another. Young kids are very impressionable and form thoughts mostly based on cues they pick up from others around them.
Most kids understand gender between the ages of 18 and 24 months. And they can identify their own gender at 3 years. This BS is about grooming is pure crap. 4-year olds know gender, and know their own gender as well as you and I do. And there are a small percentage of them who, at that age, or younger, feel like they are in the wrong body. And how do we know how a 4-year old feels? Again, listen to their experience. And watch their reactions. Believe me, presenting the kid with what people would feel are gender appropriate toys were presented over and over and over again to the kid. They always gravitated to the other, non-traditional gender toys. My own son? I'm a huge sports fan. Games are always on TV and we've gone to several sporting events through the years, including UA games, and Phoenix pro sports. I would say he has been influenced greatly. But he's simply not a fan. He likes basketball the most, but baseball, football, hockey, and soccer? Doesn't care at all. I've groomed him to be a fan, but his experience is he would rather play video games, build legos, or take other things apart. Kids are their own humans. They have their own personalities, wants, wishes, and desires. We can guide them to where we wish they would go, but in the end, they will be their own person. And that includes those who feel they were born as the wrong gender. Again, don't criticize what you don't understand. All kids have issues, and nobody is perfect. And if parents could mold their kids to their own desires all the time, we'd never have child psychiatrists and family therapists that deal with kids.
