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What's happening in DeSantistan 2.0

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gator_lawyer, Jun 9, 2023.

  1. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

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    Good. Fight the power. People need to know what rights they have.
     
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  2. defensewinschampionships

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    Right. That's what Miranda was about - being informed of your rights, even if you aren't informed about your rights. Sorry everyone for the crappy word play.
     
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    I read that this morning. Just reinforced why I retired.

    Interesting note though, I did not know about Alabama cavalry. Never too old to learn
     
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  5. defensewinschampionships

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    It's hard sometimes, and has been for a decade or more. I once got called on the carpet because I said something to the tune of: Abraham Lincoln was involved in temporarily moving the legislature of the state of Maryland from pro-secession Annapolis to pro-Union Frederick just days before the vote for secession. He also had arrested, without charge, several secessionist members of the Maryland legislature, so that they couldn't vote, promptly releasing them after the vote.

    Then I posed the question: did the ends justify the means? Follow up question: if the ends justified the means, what is the limit of federal overreach (means/ends) that would cause you to say "no more." Where is the line in the sand for you? Great discussion followed from a group of 8th graders.

    This was during the early days of the Obama Admin and the ACA and some Karen of a mom thought I was using this line of thinking to question the almighty Obamacare. Got my you know what chewed by administration and parent. I quickly apologized and promised to never push critical thinking again in class (sarcasm). Got chewed again.
     
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  6. defensewinschampionships

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    Should be taught alongside West Virginia seceding from Virginia because they refused to be dragged into the war.

    I had an ancestor conscripted into the Florida infantry, fought at Chickamauga, was captured, freed when the POW wagon was set on fire by Confederate irregulars, fought off the ambush alongside Union troops, volunteered to fight with the Union, was captured, and died at Andersonville. Weird shit happens in a Civil War.

    The letters detailing all of this were in my great-grandmother's house until it burned in the 1970s. Both my granddaddy and my dad told me about it.
     
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  7. ursidman

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    What great questions especially using the reality of history as a framework.
     
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  8. ajoseph

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    Lincoln arguably abused the Constitution to extend powers during the years. FDR pushed the power of the Presidency, as well. And I think that absolutely should be more thoroughly studied and analyzed in our more advanced classrooms.
     
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  9. ajoseph

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    I did not know this, and thanks for sharing.
     
  10. defensewinschampionships

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    Jefferson too. The Louisiana Purchase was a gross overreach.
     
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  11. defensewinschampionships

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    I appreciate the comment. It was one of the most frustrating moments in my teaching career.
     
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  12. ajoseph

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    And, to top it off, the negotiators completed exceeded the scope of what they could negotiate, and what the could pay. They originally went to negotiate the rights to New Orleans and Mississippi basin, but Napolean was so desperate for cash, he made them “an offer they couldn’t refuse.”
     
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  13. gator_lawyer

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    This guy is the absolute worst. How much longer are we stuck with the DeSantis regime?
     
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    He never says anything unless it's related to vaccines
     
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    What is required to take his MD license?
     
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/02/26/florida-fetal-personhood-alabama-ivf/

    Republican legislators in Florida hit the pause button on a bill that would have given any “unborn child” new protections after opponents raised concerns it would impact women’s reproductive rights in ways similar to the Alabama IVF ruling.

    The bill had passed easily through most committees in the Republican-led legislature until Democrats began raising concerns last week that the proposal was so broad that it might also impact in vitro fertilization treatments.

    The legislation sought to define a fetus as an “unborn child” shielded by civil negligence laws. Supporters said the measure would bring civil law in line with existing state criminal law that allows for additional penalties against people charged with harming a pregnant woman.

    Opponents called it an effort to establish “fetal personhood” that would put abortion providers and people who help women obtain an abortion at risk of being sued.
     
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