Biden ranks #14 of all presidents, Trump dead last

Do you coincide the fact that more died in 2021 under Biden than under Trump in 2020? Seems like you’ve moved on from that point.

Throwing much of the “stimulus” wasn’t needed for Covid, it did juice the economy even more and increased inflation. We been down that road before and posted articles suggesting it added about 3% more to overall inflation.

 

Take it up with the article, there are many saying the same thing.
You can also then include all of December 2021 and much of Jan22 when Biden was in office. That just adds to his totals too..
Take the 12 months of Trump’s term (no knowledge of the disease and no vaccine) and the first 12 of Biden’s (with a vaccine). Biden comes up short again.

 

Actually, no. That is false too. Setting aside the fact that there is no reason to not include those 3 weeks other than it doesn't help your point, the OECD data says that 392,818 died of Covid in 2020 while 382,327 died while Biden was President in 2021.

Mortality, by week : COVID-19 deaths by week, 2020-2024

So things were rosy enough to not need economic stimulus in 2021 but not 2020?

 

Of course you do. He ignited 4 decades of prosperity for the country, when many thought we hit our ceiling in the 70s… and almost wanted to apologize for it. I would vote for a cryogenic frozen Reagan today over ANY of our current choices now.

 

By late 2021 much of the country was reopened, many economists said it wasn’t needed.
But par for the course everybody loves Gov money.

 

Okay, but that bill was passed in March, not the end of the year. Regardless, less deaths that year under Biden than under Trump in 2020.

 

Our government and the media really do a great job at keeping you guys divided. It would be funny if it wasn't straight up ruining this country.

 

Utterly stoopid.

 

I don’t really care about the underlying COVID debate, but he’s not wrong about the simple fact that more Americans died of COVID in 2021 than 2020, and even if you want to limit it to the part of 2021 while Biden was president it is either still more than 2020 or essentially the same amount (depending on what source you are relying on for numbers).

 

I mean, when more than 10K extra deaths (if you exclude his last 3 weeks for some reason) or over 85K extra deaths (if you don't) is treated like a rounding error, kind of shows the scale of the issue...

 

I'm taking it up with you, since you posted the article (which, it should be noted, included 3 weeks when Trump was President as deaths under Biden to get the desired result of the editorial board of the WSJ) and made the claim.

Okay, if you want to cut it a third way, lets take the 51 weeks of Trump from the last time that a week had 0 deaths (we will call that the start of the Pandemic) until he left office and compare it to the first 51 weeks under Biden.

Trump: 468,317

Biden: 416,615

And, it should be noted, that includes 4 weeks under Trump with single digit deaths before the Pandemic really began, 2 weeks with double digit deaths, and 1 week of triple digit deaths, before the thousands of death per week started. So we are, essentially, still comparing about 44 weeks of Trump to 51 weeks of Biden and there were still more deaths under Trump.

 

That's becasue you post with disdain for people that are not part of your group-think minion club.

 

Glad Reagan is taking a well deserved hit. He coasted on the sacrifices Carter made. His domestic policy was abhorrent and bigoted. He should be considered one of the villains of American history for how he handled the AIDS crisis.

As for Obama, the biggest benefit to him was Trump being his successor. It drove home how competent Obama was. It's also difficult to assess a presidency while it's happening. That said, I do think Obama is overrated on this list, likely a combination of nostalgia and his skill as an orator. If Biden had Obama's oratory skill and charisma, he'd be perceived very differently imo.

 

A well thought out response to that ludicrous listed order of presidents.

 

Conservatives rated him at 5. Liberals rated him at 18, I believe. How does he end up at 16? Remember that this is put together by leading political scientists---i.e., highly educated professors. People who are highly educated skew more liberal (as do people in academia). So I'd bet the sample skews more liberal.

Whether one likes FDR or not, his tenure as President fundamentally changed the United States as a country. One could point to his great achievements like leading us to victory in World War II, bringing the country out of the Great Depression into the world's economic superpower, and New Deal programs that still impact this country today (ex. Social Security).

But FDR also turned the federal government into the dominant force it is today. Federal powers expanded in a massive way during his tenure. We as a country haven't turned back since then. Some might dislike his presidency because they believe a strong federal government is a bad thing. But if we're talking about the most impactful Presidents in American history, he's easily top five.

 

How can you disprove vaccines deaths, or deaths caused by taking the vaccine?I wish Trump had never allowed Fauci even near his administration. He was and is a dangerous human being to other people. I wonder if he was part of the "vaccines" push during the first Gulf War too? I have a personnel friend get temporarily parallelized becasue of the crap vaccines he received in the Army.

 

but it is true more people worldwide died after the vax than before. that's factual.

but more people died in general after the vaccine than before the vaccine. died suddenly became real.

 

If you actually believe in fiscal responsibility he also ignite four decades of increasing national debt which grew much more under Republican presidents that Democrats. Also keep in mind that during those four decades Democrats were in the White House for 16 years and that the worst recession since the Great Depression occurred under a Republican president (George W. Bush) as the result of the deregulation trend that began under Reagan.

Not saying that it was the only factor under Clinton the debt declined and unemployed hit its lowest level decades and that was following a small tax increase and by the way although it was a factor the economic growth under Clinton was not primarily attributable to the growth of technology. There were actual more new jobs in non-tech fields that in tech. Just a reminder.

 

My group-think minion club is principled conservatives. I call them out when they say things unsupported by the facts on a regular basis.