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Biden ranks #14 of all presidents, Trump dead last

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Feb 18, 2024.

  1. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    Wait, so it was worse (i.e., it "peaked) under Trump? You are acknowledging that? Also, he didn't declare the end of the pandemic three years ago. So nice try on that one.
     
  2. duggers_dad

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    Actually, there was more dying in 2021 than in 2020. But Biden still unfurled a Mission Accomplished banner. Maybe it had been mothballed since Bush. Good enough for #14 I guess.
     
  3. mdgator05

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    When did he declare the pandemic over?
     
  4. duggers_dad

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  5. mdgator05

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    Okay, you can copy and paste. Now tell me when that was.
     
  6. tilly

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    No real "bi-partisan group" puts Biden over Reagan. I mean this is a troll poll right?
     
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  7. citygator

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    Regan’s legacy on the right gets bigger every year as time passes and they forget his deficits and scandals.

    2nd tier seems right for him. Not great but good.
     
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  8. tilly

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    But not Biden. Cmon.
     
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  9. flgator2

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  10. citygator

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    The report cited a portion of the survey that said Biden was the hardest to rate since he is still in his administration.

    I'd argue Lincoln's approval rate would have been dismal so approval rates are not important. Coincidently Lincoln faced insurrectionists too.

    I think Biden will end up around 20. Accomplishments of a top 12 president but the communication skills of a bottom 12.
     
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  11. WarDamnGator

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    I see Biden's ranking as similar to how a coach that takes over a tanking program and quickly restores them to respectability is "coach of the year" material. Biden took over after the worst and most hated president in history and immediately restored America's credibility.
     
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  12. gatorchamps960608

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    It's silly to include any current president in a ranking until his term(s) is/are over.
     
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  13. GatorBen

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    But he hasn’t really made much substantive improvement - we’re not “more respectable” because things are substantially better off, just because he says less absurd and offensive crap.

    It’s less like giving a coach of the year honor to a guy that turned a program around, and more like saying Napier deserved to be coach of the year last season because he successfully managed to avoid both wearing a Darth Vader costume to a press conference and saying that we don’t care about the Cotton Bowl.
     
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  14. WarDamnGator

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    There were definite concerns with Trump that went beyond him just saying dumb stuff ... he was crapping on our NATO partners and praising Putin and Kim Jung Un, the kind of stuff that can cause permanent damage to America ... set Iran loose to restart it's nuclear program ... trying to overturn the vote and end democracy ... Then you have Miley feeling Trump was so unstable at the end that he had to tell his people not to launch the Nukes without going through him first.

    I'm not saying it's right, but going from that to where we are now surely doesn't hurt Biden's image.
     
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  15. avogator

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    Obama managed to avoid getting asassinated which is a pretty amazing accomplishment for the first non white president
     
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  16. gatorpa

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    I’m not anti-vax so settle yourself down trickster and don’t put words in my mouth.

    I’m just reminding you guys of the facts.
    More died in 2021 from Covid (when the vaccines were available) than died in 2020 under Trump without a vaccine.

    Sorry those facts aren’t convenient for the Biden lovers.

    You can chose to ignore those facts but that’s what they are. I’m neither giving blame or criticizing, you guys are the ones all in a twist to pat Biden on the back when the facts are things weren’t so rosy under him wrt Covid deaths either.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/bidens-covid-death-milestone-biden-administration-trump-11637708781
     
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  17. gatorpa

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    You should be embarrassed for ignoring the fact that more died in 2021 under Biden with a vaccine developed under Trump, than died in 2020 under Trump.
    Your out in the weeds post shows another point Trump faced Covid when we knew very little about it, by the time Biden took over our knowledge had increased exponentially.
    BTW I wasn’t comparing Trumps time to all of Biden’s(you added that in to provide cover for the empty suit in the white house currently).

    It’s okay I know you guys all deep down know Biden isn’t some great President and is losing his cognitive abilities. The mental gymnastics to prop him up is a taxing full time job…..

    Link from Nov of 2021, there are plenty of other sources showing the facts.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/bidens-covid-death-milestone-biden-administration-trump-11637708781
     
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  18. mdgator05

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    That would be the time frame that you said you opposed the stimulus bill as unnecessary. So were things rosy or not? Or is it just contextual?
     
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  19. GatorFanCF

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    It's a worthless white paper: surveying 500 social scientists and about 1/3 responding. Might has well have said "We went to the hallowed halls of Harvard and interviewed 500 recent graduates..." And, SHOCKER, we found out people hate Trump. Unless I missed it there was no reference to how many of the respondents were Republicans vs. Democrats, etc.

    White paper/Shite paper
     
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  20. mdgator05

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    Since you didn't like the previous question, I'll just point out that your statement is also untrue unless you include the first three weeks of 2021, when Biden wasn't President, when ~77K people died in those 3 weeks. Just to be honest here.
     
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