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Migrant crisis on one ranch in Arizona

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ursidman, Feb 19, 2024.

  1. ursidman

    ursidman VIP Member

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    Very good piece in NYT that can be accessed for free through the tweet. Holes in the wall, cartels, and migrants from across the globe all on 1 ranch in Arizona. It’s complicated.

     
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  2. buckeyegator

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    hole in the wall, are butch and sundance there?
     
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  3. ThePlayer

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    Chilton is the new Hilton.
    Thanks Biden.
     
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  4. ursidman

    ursidman VIP Member

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    I think the article failed you.
     
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  5. PITBOSS

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    Outstanding article. Shows the frontlines of border crises. Btw, we need investigative journalism like this, from “both sides” as long as it’s factual.

    “The Chiltons had spent the past several years trying to unravel the mysteries of their own backyard and grasping at partial truths as the situation worsened on their ranch. They discovered drugs and at least 150 smuggling trails on their grazing land, so they put up security cameras and offered to arm all five of their working cowboys. Those cowboys started to see groups of migrants stranded near the border, so the Chiltons installed water fountains in the desert to help keep people alive.”
     
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  6. ursidman

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    Agree. Interesting that the “protagonist” of this story voted for trump, was in favor of the wall and the article was empathetic to his situation.
     
  7. channingcrowderhungry

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    That's one way to let us know you didn't take the time to read the article.
     
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  8. GatorRade

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    Thanks. Eye opening article indeed.
     
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  9. ThePlayer

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    Read every single word.
    While heartbreaking to those coming, we can't feed and house the entire world.
    This is a problem brought on by Biden and paid for by every American taxpayer.
     
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  10. channingcrowderhungry

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    Where are they feeding and housing them on the ranch? You said it was the Hilton.
     
  11. G8trGr8t

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    no it is a problem born of poverty and lawlessness in their home countries. those problems were compounded when Trumph cut the aid to help with security and economic development to help keep those people at home. You can choose to remain ignorant of the facts if you wish or you can read and recognize the genesis of these migrations go back to the problems the orange man faced and how he handled them by punishing the countries that were suffering instead of trying to help them to keep their people home. He had a brushfire and he threw gasoline on it and walked away for someone else to deal with the resulting inferno.

    Trump cuts aid to Central American countries as migrant crisis deepens | Reuters
    The U.S. government cut aid to El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras on Saturday after President Donald Trump blasted the Central American countries for sending migrants to the United States and threatened to shutter the U.S.-Mexico border.
    A surge of asylum seekers from the three countries have sought to enter the United States across the southern border in recent days. On Friday, Trump accused the nations of having "set up" migrant caravans and sent them north.

    Trump funding cuts hurt 80% of USAID Central America programs: Report | Devex

    Over 80% of U.S. Agency for International Development programs in the Northern Triangle countries of El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala experienced adverse effects due to the suspension of aid to the region in March 2019 under former President Donald Trump, according to a U.S. Government Accountability Office report released publicly Monday.

    USAID reported that 92 of its 114 projects in the region had to reduce the size and scope of programs and saw negative effects on institutional capacity, as well as timeliness and efficiency of activities. Sixty-five of the State Department’s 168 projects, or nearly 40%, experienced the same.
     
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  12. AzCatFan

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    Not only did Trump cut aid, Trump reduced the number of legal immigrants that could come. So now there was less aid, and almost no chance of getting to the US legally.

    The current trend of undocumented started to peak in 2019. Had the pandemic not occurred, 2020 would've seen record numbers. As is, 2021 and 2022 were likely inflated by the people waiting in Mexico, who got tired of waiting.

    We can't take every starving person in the v world in. But those who make it to our doorstep? We can take most, if not all. 3 million more job openings than unemployed, and that doesn't cover the entire labor shortage story.
     
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  13. Trickster

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    You lay DECADES of border problems on Biden and completely ignore the House's dismissal of BIPARTISAN efforts to fix them - first in 2013 and then last week. That's hyper-partisanship at its worst and EXHIBIT "A" of why this country is currently so dysfunctional.

    Your football posts are informative.
     
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  14. VAg8r1

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    Brought on by Biden?
    This is a similar story from 2018. Maybe I'm mistaken but I do not recall Biden being president at the time.
    Arizona rancher films immigrants sneaking across the border onto his property | Daily Mail Online
    And this is from May 2019.
    People don't need to die. Border rancher deals with constant flow of migrants