Golden against other SEC hires from his class

Sounds right because I remember he had a very good record against them all last year. Add in the fact that he is having success overall, looking like we may have made a good hire.

 

I saw this on another site and have to give the poster credit as he said it very well, especially about the emotion that Golden shows. Emotion place a big part, and when 18, 19, and 20-year-old kids see the Coach emotional they realize it must be important to the Coach. In all sports we need to see some emotion from the coach. Sully definitely shows emotion and I love it. Anyway, I thought I would share, because it is a very good post as we’ve missed this true emotion that Spurrier, Meyer, and Billy D. Showed.

It’s nice to finally see some passion on the sideline. It makes us as fans feel like he cares about the team and the program, and being a Gator.

 

I’ll go one step further, I wish we saw this emotion and passion from Billy.
Golden doing pretty big things in year 2 comparatively speaking. And, I would say his emotion place a big part as the kids seem to respond to him. Billy is extremely methodical and calm, which sounds great but if you look back to Spurrier and Meyer, not the way, they did things

 

Yep 12-1, 12-0 in the regular season.

Mike White 4-0
Matt McMahon 3-0 (I recall a lot of people wanting this guy instead)
Dennis Gates 2-0
Chris Jans 2-1
Lamont Paris 1-0

 

This is the internet, facts are not verified. They are assumed to be true by the confirmation bias seeking followers in all aspects of life. I once posted that my wife is the best cook on the planet. She took it as fact.

 

I didn’t know a lot of people were lobbying for McMahon. I’ll confess… of the SEC hires, Jans was my guy.

 

no one showed more emotion than Will Muschamp and he was a very bad head coach. Jeremy Pruitt kicking swipe boards and screaming on the sidelines showed tons of emotion and he was a bad head coach. Jimmy Mac yelled a ton - even at his own players…and he was not a good head coach. Tom Osborne was a statue yet has an incredible win total and won national championships. Tony Bennett is a very calm head coach on the sideline with little to no emotion. Hugely successful.

showing emotion doesn’t make a or break a head coach in my opinion. It is more for fans to think so.

 

Very well said. I'm the same about wanting the coach to scream at the refs. What lesson does that teach your student-athletes? Is there evidence (as in, measurable facts) it works? Is it healthy for the game?

My daughter is a D-1 ref for lacrosse. Saturday a coach took a time-out to tee off on her (for something the coach was wrong about.) Then, every trip down the field, the whole coaching staff was yelling "bad ref."

Guess what?

We are rapidly reaching the crisis stage in prep and youth sports, where fewer and fewer people are willing to take on the job of officiating games. More than 70 percent of new referees, in all sports, quit the job within three years,​

But yeh, our coach looks great "fighting for his players."

 

You make a good point. I like a coach that is animated and into the game because the players feed off it, more so in basketball than in football. But I think the anger needs to be carefully managed, and only directed at individual players in small doses.

 

I agree. People are unique and every leader has their own style. For some, visible passion is part of that calculus. For others stoicism and a deep keel work best.
There's no right or wrong way per se. It's individual and I'd add it should be tailored to your team's mental make-up as well as the leader's make-up.

 

As a retired HS basketball ref (1 glorious season), I agree with this. Watching my own kids play in HS it's painful to see the difficulties in finding competent refs.

That said, a good ref won't allow that. I blew the whistle once and walked up a ballistic coach and told him that he's expressed his opinion, Ive heard him, we are now moving on and consider this your warning.

He heard me and while still said some things, he was much more rational.

Unfortunately that's a big ask for many in the ranks now.

 

There's a big difference between arguing a call with a ref and going nuts on him. Arguing doesn't change a call (actually it sometimes does, but it's extremely rare), but it might help the next time whatever initiated the call happens. CTG doesn't cross that line. He's struck the right balance that lets his players know he's got their backs while not alienating the refs.

 

Alas, extenuating circumstances. My daughter previously played at that school, she's REALLY young (youngest D-1 ref in women's lax history), and she was with two international refs. She didn't want it to escalate into something unrelated.

Some fans watch YouTube videos where their guy "destroys" somebody and want that from their coach. "He's a fighter." Well, if everybody's a fighter, etc.

I agree, CTG has it right and modeling the right behavior. Those wanting him to blow up on refs...it's juvenile.

 

Yeah you can fight for your guys, and not be a lunatic.

Maybe basketball needs a get back coach? I'm only joking, the get back coach is the dumbest thing the last 15 years of CFB. Zero chance I need another grown man to hold onto my belt loop like a toddler at Disney.

 

Rereading this exchange - I want to be clear that I by no means was insinuating anything negative about your daughter's abilities!

 

It's a question of balance (with apologies to The Moody Blues.)

 

A good coach will pick his spots to tell off a ref. If it was an iffy call or a blatantly wrong call and you don't have a rep for going nuts on every call it may lead to a make up call later.

And really good coaches at it don't "show up" the ref. Refs hate that. A coach can get his point across without acting insane on the sidelines.

 

True, but I think the "emotional" aspect of it is a lot broader than just yelling at refs or demolishing inanimate objects It's also demonstrating an intense competitiveness, will to win and belief in the players. It gives players confidence in themselves. That's what I think Shane was referencing in post 4 above when he mentioned Spurs, Meyer and Donovan.

That has been lacking in our football and basketball programs as of late.