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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. G8trGr8t

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    Czech Republic found hundreds of thousands of artillery munitions abroad that could be transferred to Ukraine (msn.com)

    “We have found half a million of 155-millimeter shells and 300 thousand shells of 122-millimeter caliber,” he said.

    Umerov called for the delivery of the promised one million artillery shells, which the EU pledged to provide to Ukraine within one year in the spring of 2023.

    The letter also states that Ukraine needs 200 thousand 155-mm shells per month. At the same time, the Russian army can receive almost twice as much ammunition, and Russia has received about a million shells from North Korea.
     
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  2. GatorJMDZ

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    You've obviously confused someone here for a person that actually cares about your opinions, especially about Ukraine and Russia.
     
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  3. duggers_dad

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    Ukraine finding out what happens to proxies in US proxy wars.
     
  4. vegasfox

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    I said I wanted to debate ZtOo Hot's greatest (liberal) champion. No one thinks that is you. AzCatFan, mdgatoe05 (the potato counter) and StrangeGaror seem to be very smart judging by their verbal ability. None of them can debunk me on Putin or the Ukraine War, imo. Does your team have someone with more ability? I think your smartest posters agree with me, they're just remaining silent. Note that none of them will condemn Biden, Zelensky or the State Dept (Nuland) for being complicit in the death of Gonzalo Lira. Pretty shameful imo.
     
  5. duggers_dad

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    I have to admit that this board has more staying power than I thought. Even Zelensky is shaking his head at people who think Russia’s losing.
     
  6. slayerxing

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  7. duggers_dad

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    People on this board believed that …

    The Ghost of Kyiv was real.

    The Ukrainian garrison on Snake Island cursed the Russians and died to a man.

    Russia fired a Ukrainian missile from Ukrainian territory on ethnic Russians in Russian-held territory.

    Russia is committing genocide by firing multi-million dollar high-precision missile on apartment buildings.

    Russians have suffered twice as many dead as have appeared in theatre since the war started.

    Russians were reduced to fighting with shovels but still took Bakhmut.

    And people like me are brain washed.
     
  8. l_boy

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    We are arguing 2 different things. Sure the economy has slowed some and may continue to slow. In the US voters would come out with pitchforks. With Russians they are either meh, because they are still much better off than before Putin, or it’s not like they have any other choices. Accept it, speak up and go to prison, or leave the country. Russians culturally and historically have been through a lot more misery than this.
     
  9. okeechobee

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    You’re asking questions they don’t want to answer. We have U.S. senators openly mocking the idea that Ukraine will somehow break Russia’s will and telling us Russia is not leaving. Senators rarely offer absolutes like that unless they are impeccably true. Instead of calling sitting senators Russian agents, how about providing some evidence they are compromised. We are being warned about the impending danger.
     
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  10. chemgator

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    First F-16 jets should arrive in Ukraine in June.

    First F-16 jets may arrive in Ukraine in June

     
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  11. chemgator

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    Putin is a liar. You are fairly arrogant for a redneck who can't spell sombrero. Typical Trump supporter and propaganda peddler. You don't know what you're talking about, but you don't let that stop you.

    If Ukraine gets weapons and ammo, they win this war. If they don't, they lose.
     
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  12. okeechobee

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    chemgator one year ago: look at all these shiny new leopards and HIMARS Ukraine has now. Once the weather warms up a bit for the counteroffensive, the Russians won't know what hit them.
     
  13. chemgator

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    It just shows you how paranoid Putin is, especially after Prigozhin almost went after him. Putin knows the polls don't reflect the true feelings of the Russian people about the war. The people who fled for the border rather than be drafted are more indicative of how the population feels. There are also Russians sabotaging Russia's military in the war. Navalny is probably a much better leader than Putin is, and more charismatic to boot, so Putin felt like he needed to get rid of him. This wasn't the first assassination attempt on his life. Killing him also sends a message to others about what the price is for disagreeing with Putin's policies.
     
  14. okeechobee

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    These posts are from a year ago...
    LOLOLOLOL
     
  15. okeechobee

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    LOLLLLLLLLLL
     
  16. chemgator

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    That only works if Ukraine has ammo. I will say that Ukraine's tanks will be more successful if Russia goes on the offensive. The tanks will not be concerned about the mines that slowed them down last time. The Leopards have greater accuracy and range than the Russian tanks do.
     
  17. okeechobee

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    The level of derp is insufferable.
     
  18. okeechobee

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    Ooops.

    But yeah, a year later, we need to send them billions more, because Biden ****boy here says we need to. What a piece of trash.
     
  19. vegasfox

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    Define "win."

    There is zero chance Russia is going to give up captured territory it wants to keep

    Every competent geopolitical thinker in the world knew this war was over before it began.

    You should have known from the beginning that Ukraine would run out of men, ammo and weapons, along with everything else needed to wage war.

    500 thousand people dead because of people that think like you.

    The Biden administration has decided the war is lost. They do want tu send enough money and weapons to Ukraine to avoid a total collapse before the 2024 US elections.

    If Putin is a liar where are the lies? In the Tucker interview? In his speeches?
     
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  20. uftaipan

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    I agree. And that is true even if we renew full aid to Ukraine or even significantly increase it (the funding helps tremendously, of course, and we need to keep it going). I’ve been saying a for a while that Ukraine cannot win by simply taking the land back. Russia has to decide to leave because the cost is not worth it. One way Ukraine ratchets up that cost is to keep causing disproportionate casualties every which way that it can.
     
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