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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. RealGatorFan

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    Great on that front but the question is, how many Zircon missiles does Russia have? The US and the west have no defense against them. If Russia starts to use them more often the Patriot defense system would be impotent against them.
     
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  3. chemgator

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    A good article on the recent attacks on Russian oil refineries. Based on what Ukraine has demonstrated they are capable of attacking, there are 18 refineries within range of Ukraine's drones. One of the recent attacks was hundreds of kilometers from the Ukrainian border. That would be hilarious if Russia ran out of fuel during the war. And the F-16's have not arrived yet.

    What continued drone strikes on Russian oil refineries could mean for war with Ukraine

     
  4. chemgator

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    Denmark to send 100% of its artillery ammo to Ukraine. The Czechs are willing to send 800,000 artillery shells to Ukraine once funding is found.

    Denmark to send its 'entire artillery' to Ukraine, the country's prime minister says

     
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  5. chemgator

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    The EU promises to send 2 million artillery shells per year to Ukraine. It's good to see that some countries are led by heroes, and not cowards & traitors.

    EU promises 2 million artillery shells to Ukraine every year

     
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  6. chemgator

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    The Kremlin fires the head of the Black Sea Fleet. Must mean that Russia is losing the war.

    Kremlin sacks head of Black Sea fleet after Ukraine sinks warships

     
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  8. chemgator

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    Military experts say that Ukraine could become Russia's Vietnam War.

    How Ukraine could become Putin's 'Vietnam,' say military analysts

     
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  9. chemgator

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    Germany warns that U.S. failure to support Ukraine could lead to economic problems for the U.S.

    Germany Says Failure to Back Ukraine Aid Could Hurt US Economy

     
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  10. l_boy

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    Realistically this is likely the only way Ukraine “wins” in the long term. Sit back and keep taking pot shots and terrorizing the Russians. It could take years before anything happens.
     
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  11. chemgator

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    I believe Russia's economy would collapse in 2-3 years, IF the U.S. would re-start military aid to Ukraine. Attacks on the refineries are starting to damage the Russian economy. Things might get interesting when the F-16's start being used in the conflict. Hopefully, Ukraine starts by taking out the rest of the Black Sea fleet, then goes after refineries and weapons factories, if enough of the SAM systems are destroyed to allow for that.
     
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  13. l_boy

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    What exactly makes you believe the Russian economy will collapse? There is no evidence of that. As long as they have oil they will be able to sell it and make due.

    Russians are used to adversity. German invasion, USSR and rationing and the post Soviet collapse cleptocracy where the economy was horrible for 99.9% of the population. If the economy stagnated or goes down a few percent it isn’t like what happens here. They have no free press, and they won’t say anything because they will be jailed. Young capable people will continue to flee but that just means the people left are docile or supportive.

    Perhaps if long enough people will become wary of the war dead and ominous threat of random Ukrainian attacks, but that will take a while.
     
  14. duggers_dad

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    ^ sanity emerges …
     
  15. vegasfox

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    We are almost 2 years into the Ukraine War and most of you are still clueless. As I said on the first day of the war, Ukraine has 0% chance of winning.

    I told you guys why Putin entered Ukraine. It was to prevent the ethnic cleaning of Russian speakers in eastern and southeastern Ukraine.

    Putin has given another interview and he confirms what I said almost 2 years ago.

    Whoever Too Hot's greatest liberal debater is, he doesn't want a piece of me. Either 1) he knows the facts support my arguments or 2) he hasn't seen my posts. What's funny is I'm just a redneck with a sombero and a piece of straw hanging out of my mouth.

    The Duran on the Putin interview:

     
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  16. duggers_dad

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    ^ Falls on deaf ears. Russia reportedly lost 14.5 million in WWII, in a war it regarded as existential.

    People scoff when they say the present war is existential, this in spite of the U.S.’ well-documented designs (Biden, Blinken and Austen have said the quiet part out loud) to see Putin deposed and Russia weakened.

    Who’s propagandized, really ?
     
  17. duggers_dad

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    Navalny has been in prison for three years, is pulling 2% in polls … and Putin now decides to kill him as Western aid to Ukraine is grinding to a halt.

    R-i-g-h-t.
     
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  18. vegasfox

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    Yep
     
  19. G8trGr8t

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    apparently not enough to use them very often, the ones they fired apparently were not very accurate, and every time they do use one the US gains insight intel. And I wouldn't agree that we have no defense against them.
     
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  20. G8trGr8t

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    disagree, their production capacity continues to decline without investment and technical expertise and their profitability drops as they have to sell at much below market price.

    Russia’s Oil-Export Revenue at Six-Month Low as Price Falls - Bloomberg
     
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