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China’s population fell again

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Jan 17, 2024.

  1. demosthenes

    demosthenes Premium Member

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    Right, but the side against immigration is the one preventing any kind of immigration revamp.

    As for your last statement, yes, that could be a concern but even 3 million a year (3x our current rate) is less than 1% of our population so I don’t think we’re at that point. People talk about other countries shrinking like Japan that doesn’t allow hardly any immigration but if it wasn’t for immigration our population would be shrinking too.
     
  2. WarDamnGator

    WarDamnGator GC Hall of Fame

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    Draw back to that is you'd eventually end up with a county that has a lot more boys than girls.
     
  3. l_boy

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    I’ve always been and continue to be pro immigration. However I think there needs to be an orderly and logical process. I agree Trump tanked a bill that would have brought at least some progress. 1% seems small as a percent but 3 million a year is probably a stretch to assimilate. I’d like to see more green cards and visas for skilled labor, we are ridiculously stingy on that.
     
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  4. l_boy

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    https://www.wsj.com/world/china/china-population-births-economy-one-child-c5b95901?mod=mhp

    https://archive.ph/Zemqg

    China’s baby bust is happening faster than many expected, raising fears of a demographic collapse. And coping with the fallout may now be complicated by miscalculations made more than 40 years ago.

    The rapid shift under way today wasn’t projected by the architects of China’s one-child policy—one of the biggest social experiments in history, instituted in 1980. At the time, governments around the world feared overpopulation would hold back economic growth. A Moscow-trained missile scientist led the push for China’s policy, based on tables of calculations that applied mathematical models used to calculate rocket trajectories to population growth.

    Four decades later, China is aging much earlier in its development than other major economies did. The shift to fewer births and more elderly citizens threatens to hold back economic growth. In a generation that grew up without siblings, young women are increasingly reluctant to have children—and there are fewer of them every year. Beijing is at a loss to change the mindset brought about by the policy.

    Births in China fell by more than 500,000 last year, according to recent government data, accelerating a population drop that started in 2022. Officials cited a quickly shrinking number of women of childbearing age—more than three million fewer than a year earlier—and acknowledged “changes in people’s thinking about births, postponement of marriage and childbirth.”
     
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  5. OklahomaGator

    OklahomaGator Jedi Administrator Moderator VIP Member

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    Which is part of Chinas problem as males were preferable and abortions of female fetuses caused an imbalance of men to women.

    Sex-ratio imbalance in China - Wikipedia.

    From the link:

    The causes of the high sex ratio in China result from a combination of strong son preference, the one-child policy, easy access to sex-selective abortion, food scarcity, and discrimination against and abuses of females.[18]
     
  6. danmanne65

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    That’s what they have now. People are aborting female babies because they want sons.
     
  7. WarDamnGator

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    True, but that method would actually make the problem worse. A one child policy is still a 50-50 policy but as pointed out, abortions of females are making it more like a 48-52 policy. I think the policy Oklahoma suggest would have more like a 40-60 result.

    Edit: Nevermind, I was wrong, it would be closer to 50/50, assuming they stop aborting girls.
     
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  8. homer

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    Is there a contact number or email address where I can find out how to get on the list to help increase the population in China?

    Asking for a friend.
     
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